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'Choose' rhymes with 'lose'? I mean c'mon, someone did that shit on purpose 👀

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The bigger problem is that lose should rhyme with pose or close. Loose is fine.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Don't get me started on ough and ead.

The lead soldier kneaded dough in the bough brush while they read the book that they previously read while taking a furlough in the rough.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I read this and all I could think of was "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo"

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 years ago
[-] tyler@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Didn’t even have to click. Great poem

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 years ago

I barely started reading and i hate this already.

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[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Hoes drop their clothes.

Who the hell decided that close is pronounced the same as clothes?

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

No one? They aren't pronounced the same in any accent that I'm aware of.

Edit: I'm dumb. I was reading that as the "nearby" close and not the "shut " close.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 years ago

I don't know shit about fuck when it comes to the differences between accents/dialects but it's at least enough of a thing to be there in dictionaries.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You're probably thinking of the pronunciation of close as in 'close to you'

I was thinking of the pronunciation of close as in 'close the door'

Which is pronounced the same as clothes.

[-] corvi@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

Those still aren’t pronounced the same. The th in clothes isn’t silent.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not sure where you're from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word 'clothes'. I've never heard it pronounced any different than 'close'.

Now if it's said as 'clothing', the th is indeed pronounced. But not for 'clothes'. And I've worked at a clothing store before.

You might be thinking of the word 'cloths', which indeed does pronounce the th.

English is weird like that.

[-] BenM2023@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure where you're from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word 'clothes'. I've never heard it pronounced any different than 'close'.

I'm not sure where you're from, the th in is always pronounced in my area regarding the word 'clothes'. I've never heard it pronounced the same as 'close'

I will say that people got called out for pronouncing it the same as the spice 'cloves'.

FWIW My area = rural southern UK.

[-] ODuffer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah absolutely not silent. Unless perhaps you're a cockney. Source: I'm in northern England. Perhaps it is a British thing.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I'm in the US and I pronounce it, I think a lot of people do? Maybe I just know a lot of snobs and "regular" Americans mush the word together but I don't think so

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[-] Eiri@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Close isn't always pronounced the same?!

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago

Okay as a non-native speaker who struggles with consonant clusters this is both the best and worst thing I learned today.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Hey we may have our language rules pulled from 30 different other languages and applied seemingly at random, but at least we don't have to memorize the gender of every inanimate object in the world!

I've taken 5 years of German and self studied some Russian and Spanish, and goddamn that gendered noun shit is really, really hard for native English speakers.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 3 points 2 years ago

Okay you got me there. Also for what it's worth, gendered nouns are hard even when you natively speak a language with gendered nouns. Source: Am an Arabic speaker and will Jihad anyone who says a chair is female.

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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

They sound pretty close to me. We can close this issue.

[-] SandLight@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't know that they sound that different, but I definitely "pronounce" them differently in that my tongue is in a different party of my mouth for both of them. When I say clothes, my tongue is near touching my front teeth, where as close is more just below that ridge behind my teeth, so farther back.

I'm from the center of the U.S. for reference.

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[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

they are very different in my mind. perhaps because i first came across them in their respective contexts through reading.

even when speaking, to me, lose rhymes with booze and loose rhymes with goose.

this has never been a problem for me, personally.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 years ago

And here's me, another non-native speaker, just learning that booze doesn't rhyme with goose.

[-] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

oh, no, no, no! booze and a goose should never go together!

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

english is a very silly language that's evolved so you can do almost anything with it

it's a risky strat but it seems to have worked

[-] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

May as well combine words with the same pronunciation into one word and call it Simplified English (/s)

Honestly tho, this is one of the features of Simplified Chinese, which created the infamous "fuck vegetables" (干菜类).

It's meant to say "dried vegetables" (乾菜類 in TC), but 乾→干. Meanwhile, there exists 幹→干 as well, which means "fuck".

fuck vegetables

[-] Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

So this is where I find cucumber?

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[-] db2@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

They didn't, except among the ignorant and autocorrect.

[-] vaper@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Loose rhymes with noose. I can't think of a word that's spelled and pronounced like lose so you have me there.

choose lose cruise booze

all rhyme lol

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[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Trust me, it is equally frustrating for most Americans...or almost, anyway.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

There's ~~too~~ ~~to~~ two different ways to pronounce and spell many words.

Fuck, that's three!

Steady up over ~~their~~ ~~they're~~ there.

[-] over_clox@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Don't phuck with my head, I'm two drunk!

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

It's a miracle I know it, and having to teach someone how to read and spell was an eye opener for me trying to explain "this is like this except for this one word because... Reasons and sometimes there's a variation like this because...reasons" so many times.

[-] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 years ago

Agreed, I am teaching my second son to read.

I am having the same conversations as when I taught my first to read.

"ok, this word is a 'sight word' because it doesn't make the sounds you expect. It says won, but it looks like it says on-e"

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

What about the words that are only different in tone.

Content and content

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It is read like lead, not read like lead.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

Or lede for that matter

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Are you familiar with “The Chaos” by Gerard Nolst Trenité?

Deep breath:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chaos

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 5 points 2 years ago

I believe the generally accepted scientific term for the English language is "clusterfuck".

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

*kloostaphux

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago

Okay TIL that these aren't pronounced the same.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

If we start now, we can probably switch the pronunciations of Aristotle and chipotle within a generation.

Chip-ot-el

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