there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭
if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse
Ah yeah, I've had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo... ideal discussion partner right there.
The happy animals one is hilarious. I would have no problem with someone eating me after I died and I sure as shit am not happy
Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat "from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they're hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs."
Aw man I fucked that up. My uncle has 40 cows on 3 acres that get hand scrubbed by figs while eating cherubs.
So we're not getting hand milked by 40 cows while getting figged by 3 cherubs.
I don't care about my corpse after I'm dead, but I do somewhat disagree with getting killed.
The "Vegans are loud and annoying" crowd are more loud and annoying than actual vegans in my personal experience.
Often when society had an extreme default position on a topic, its defenders sound batshit insane.
See:
Transcribing the conversation here:
Recessa, ↑4 ↓1: That's completely idiotic, milk exist because there's demand for it.
commie, ↑1 ↓4: I think you understand that milk is produced as part of the mammalian reproductive cycle. can you describe the causal steps between demanding milk and it's production?
friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓2: Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?
commie, ↑1 ↓3: do you think there's a direct causal link between drinking milk and more being produced?
friendlymessage, ↑3: Are you fucking with me?
commie, ↑2 ↓3: no. I'm trying to illustrate that markets are not governed by natural law; they are populated by irrational actors.
friendlymessage, ↑2 ↓1: Yeah, but they're not as irrational as you are and producing milk costs money. If there's no market, they will stop because they are not fuckin lunatics and they don't have infinite resources
commie, ↑2 ↓2: milk was farmed before markets existed. there is no reason to believe that will ever stop.
friendlymessage, ↑3 ↓1: That... must be the dumbest discussion I've had in a while. Please read through your comments tomorrow when you're sober
commie, ↑1 ↓1: I've been sober all day.
friendlymessage, ↑1: Okay, whatever you say
commie, ↑1 ↓2: everything I've said is true. you're objecting to reality, and being pretty shitty about it to me.
friendlymessage, ↑2: No, you're just making a no sensical argument at all. Milk was farmed from dairy cattle because it was consumed by humans. It's simple supply and demand. There is no rational argument at all that if mankind stopped consuming milk, it would still be farmed. Why would any farmer go through the effort to upkeep cows and keep them impregnanted to make them produce milk if they cannot trade it or won't consume it? Yes, humans have free will but they won't produce stuff with very high effort just for fun. Except maybe very sick minds that just enjoy animal cruelty. And you won't elaborate what your actual point is anyway.
Also, not that it matters, but you're arguing that dairy farming existed before the market is simply wrong. There has been trade between human civilizations long before we started domesticating animals.
There's a common misunderstanding among a lot of .ml folks that markets are a capitalist thing and if you just don't call them that then they don't exist.
Thank you for your service o>
"I've been sober all day." is my new comeback when someone insults my intelligence in an argument.
I like how the wording may imply that being sober that particular day might be in contrast to other days.
Both of those people are morons. One for making the argument, the other for engaging in the argument.
Me, yesterday
Just went back to that thread. The discussion continued for 4 more hours after I stopped responding, and no, it did not go anywhere. That was definitely worth everyone's time
some rhetorical hills were not meant to be treaded, much less died upon
Reading that kinda hurts my brain
What's the causal link between that comment being created and your brain hurting? Brains have hurt since before comment sections existed.
That’s why I have headaches every day
I had to ban someone because they were arguing about whether tumblr prose about physics and love was scientifically rigorous and after arguing for a chain of like 20 comments they reported the other person and started calling me names when I told them the entire argument was dumb. They then took it to the instances' main / meta forum to publically complain about and got pretty universally torn apart by both the instance moderators and several fascinated rubberneckers. They picked a molehill and just absolutely fought to the death on it for some inscrutable reason.
I've mentioned it a couple times in various meta comments on the topic of moderation less because it particularly bothers me but mostly just because it is sort of living rent free in my head in the same way as when you see someone eating an entire lobster dinner complete with metal cutlery and a cloth napkin at the bus stop. Just... huh. That person is well and truly marching to the beat of their own drum and it certainly seems to be bringing them joy but... huh.
The expression on that dude's face was very reminiscent of my face when trying to read through the original offending comment chain.
this is 1/100th of the insanity that happened on the reddit sub r/milk
I'm pretty sure there was a riot because the mods said almond milk was allowed or something like that
I like milk
No you don’t; that’s not possible. You don’t actually know what you like. How could your brain evaluate its own desires? And if you think you do, you’re wrong.
Mr. President there has been another cat food incident
a second low-tier vegan talking point has hit the servers
You: hates milke because it is unethical
Me: hates milk because it is fucking disgusting.
We are not the same
Is almond milk milk tho?
only if hot dogs are sandwiches
Fuck you and happy cake day
bwahahaha thanks i didn’t even notice
Damn, I didn't make the screenshot.
make no mistake being in this thread is not a mark of honor lmao
I like cow milk with My coffee.
"Loncoleche the hace bien"
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It looks like there are a few ISPs, countries, and general blacklists that block them. Explains why my firewall and DNS filters are catching it. Oh well. I can look more into fixing it later if it really becomes an issue.
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