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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 138 points 3 weeks ago

Kelsy Brainard, 18, a student of the $70,000-per-year Roman Catholic institution in Worcester, Massachusetts

Now it makes sense, they're rich kids looking for an excuse to beat someone up

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[-] CrispyFern@hexbear.net 128 points 3 weeks ago

squidward-nochill a 22 year old was beaten up for dating an 18 year old

squidward-chill they were a us troop

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 106 points 3 weeks ago

This is just plain liberalism of not having any actual convictions and not knowing why age gaps are actually bad in the "adulthood" beyond the reflexive and visceral "hurr pedo bad you're literally Jimmy Saville if you're 19 hanging out with 18"

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

fr a 22 year old is still just a fuckin kid. I'm 40 this year and I would never ever consider dating a 22 year old. 30 maybe, but like how can you have anything in common with someone 20 years younger than you power dynamics aside. All that said 22 and 18 is a lot better than the relationships a lot of my girl friends as a teenager got into.

Edit: okay it was a troop fuck him he deserved the beating even if it was for the wrong reasons.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

but like how can you have anything in common with someone 20 years younger than you power dynamics aside

20 is a lot but people with severe social disability or medical problems can easily lose a decade of life. I wouldn't try to date them but if i could manage to give college another shot i'd have more in common with those kids than i do with the people my age who have degrees and careers, housing, kids etc.

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[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 81 points 3 weeks ago

Liberals who infantilize women should be called out for their misogyny. Just ridiculous how they treat adult women like they’re still children. madeline-angry

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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 80 points 3 weeks ago

A group of Assumption University students...

well, at least they are living up to the alma mater's namesake.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 76 points 3 weeks ago

the reasons for the beating are obviously wrong, however, upon further reading he was an army soldier... so officer-down

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 71 points 3 weeks ago

College senior hooks up with college freshman? Possibly worthy of teasing by peers.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 67 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile actual pedophiles flying under the radar: side-eye-1 side-eye-2

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 43 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile known pedophiles sitting in congress

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[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 68 points 3 weeks ago

Power dynamics. Do you disagree?

Seriously though, this is fucking stupid. I can't believe I'm saying this but I don't think they were justified in mob beating this US soldier. Stay within your race and birth year is the message we'll all be getting soon, then? Is anti-age gap really a common thing now among younger people?

I would figure maybe this was caused in part by conservative Catholic anti-sex brainworms and young guys feeling ownership of women their age and jealous that their classmates are dating older guys instead of being their Catholic trad wife. Hook up with a guy a few years older and we'll lynch his ass? That's the message.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 78 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like we're splitting hairs here the correct takeaway should be imo that it's always ok to beat up a US soldier

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 55 points 3 weeks ago

You're right, Comrade. I take back what I said.

Their desire to beat a US soldier was justified but their analysis was wrong.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 35 points 3 weeks ago

ok nvm i stan them good job fidel-salute-big

[-] someone@hexbear.net 37 points 3 weeks ago

When I was a young man I thought I was "raised Catholic" because my Catholic parents took me and my siblings to church weekly until we were each 18. But the older I got, the more I realized how fantastic they were at shielding me and my siblings from Catholic brainworms, after seeing what actually happens to the actual "raised Catholic" victims.

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[-] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

They're just doing what the unions want. Do you disagree?

[-] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I would figure maybe this was caused in part by conservative Catholic anti-sex brainworms and young guys feeling ownership of women their age and jealous that their classmates are dating older guys instead of being their Catholic trad wife. Hook up with a guy a few years older and we’ll lynch his ass? That’s the message.

I mean, c'mon here. The people who have been yelling about "age gaps" for the last 4+ years have not been Conservative Catholics & Incels. This is 100% a "cultural-left", radlib phenomenon.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

I disagree a bit. I know of a not-insignificant portion of young misogynistic guys who are angry at women their age for dating older guys instead of them. They were around even when I was the age of the guys in this article and that was a while ago. I always felt like that fed into a lot of guys buying into the Alpha Male discourse that come around later. Probably related to incels too, but not sure which came first.

There is totally a radlib thing about age gap and that's also stupid, of course, but there's definitely a reactionary, misogynistic ownership aspect that's been festering for a long while.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

what power dynamics, theyre both in college lol

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

It's Hexbear lore.

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[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Power dynamics. Do you disagree?

It's hilarious because interracial marriage should be absolutely banned under that logic, as would wealth-gap disparity and

wait

heterosexual marriage would be banned too

was the pedophile witch-hunt a secret GAY psyop all along?

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah this is too much. If he was like 40 or something going after an 18 year old it'd raise my eyebrow but a 4 year difference, 18 and 22? C'mon.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 45 points 3 weeks ago

Literally conforms to the divide by two add 7 rule!

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[-] yoink@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago

why is always when some shit like this gets posted i see a bunch of reactionary comments on hexbear like 'oh well i guess we all have to date someone born the same SECOND as us HUH? I better tell my WIFE I'm a P*DO because there's two years between us!!' like come the fuck on

i get it, idpol's gone wild and the youth are nutso but do you really have to throw out the nuance?? maybe i'm misreading things but it feels like some of yall get really defensive when this topic comes up, and as a result we can never have any valid discussion about this topic without someone throwing some reddit-level bad faith thing at you for saying 'yes, there is some truth to age-gap discourse'

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[-] drippylilkitten@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

18 and 22. Both college aged young adults. Such a terrible age gap.

[-] Voidance@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Age gap ‘discourse’ is just cheap moralism. Vapid self-righteousness is like the zoomer internet brainrot equivalent of boomers howling about immigrants

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[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago

I'm only going to try to date women born +/- two weeks before or after me going forward just to be safe.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 33 points 3 weeks ago

If we don't share a birthday they give me the ick tbh

Unironically my partner and i share a birthday lmao

[-] Champoloo@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

That is one way to not forget your partner's bday grillman

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

Twins can only date each other or something I dunno I don’t make the rules

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago

for fuck's sake

[-] Elysium@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

This is more than likely some sort of clickbait based on how irrationally annoyed I feel (my internal "Am I being fucked up?" meter), but no one should be doing "To catch a predator"-"esque" sting operations. Esque (not a real word according to Apple. Thanks, Tim (it is)) in quotes because calling it such sort of implies a similar dynamic of "adult seeking obvious child" for sexual reasons. Or other inappropriate relations... which is basically any relations between some stranger and a child. Two adults meeting is not "to catch a predator" unless the 18 year old was pretending (as they did on the original show) to be underage. Like 14 or something. Then, ok. But that's not represented here.

Beyond that, random, private citizens have absolutely no business doing this type of stuff. It's debatable if even the fucking cops/FBI, in cooperation with skilled professionals, should even be doing this stuff. Certainly not for anyone's "entertainment." If there is a legitimate predator problem amongst the general population that justifies stings like this, then the appropriate law enforcement agencies can/should handle it. They can announce the stats from the stings afterwards. We don't need some Chris Hansen type lecturing a creepy 42 year old munching on pizza who thought he was going to meet a 14 year old girl from AOL instant messenger. I understand it's "funny" or mostly just shocking to see such footage, but still, some things just shouldn't be made.

Also, most sexual assault of children is done by people they trust. Family members or close family friends. It's not common that a stranger from the internet is the perpetrator. Also, cops are a huge percentage of abusers. If these types of "pedo stings" (which this doesn't appear to be... given only this headline) wanted to be effective they'd just wait for cops to arrive and search the cops' shit. Statistically, that would turn up more evidence of wrongdoing than luring random dumbasses (who are gross, for the record. Doesn't need to be stated...)

Anyway, all that said, the media tying this to a TikTok trend which I've heard of exactly twice makes me think this was a tiny, isolated, still very stupid and bad, incident. So, in short... I got clickbaited

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 32 points 3 weeks ago

The feeling I always got from these vigilante pedo hunters is that they don't really care about victims of CSA, because if they did, they would actually help children and victims. They want to exert power over someone and live out a violent fantasy, and nobody is gonna come to the defense of a pedophile, so they make good targets. They don't actually improve anything or make anyone safer. They humiliate someone with a sense of moral superiority, knowing that they will face no consequences for it.

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[-] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago

It's always stupid to take screwball incidents like this and extrapolate them as part of a bigger societal issue. Very reactionary thinking.

[-] john_brown@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

Guarantee these catholic white knights have never beaten down a priest accused of actual predatory behavior

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

white knight

I'm so used to seeing this word in a negative way used by incels before "simp" came along and usurped it. But here I think it's apt, these bozos think they're Chris Hansen but in reality they're just being cruel dicks. (even if he did deserve to be beaten up for being a troop but they didn't care about that)

[-] miz@hexbear.net 22 points 3 weeks ago

could we get a link to the story maybe

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago

By half-your-age-plus-seven rules he was only barely in the clear. Sus?🤔

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

I don't really like the age gap discourse. I think it is attempting to use identity politics to explain structural peobelms. Why is an age gap bad? Because cis het relationships are inherently bad and without sufficient experience to navigate them younger partners are likely to be hurt? Or because they are unlikely to lead to a successful marriage and kids? That's awfully partirarchy pilled. Let's imagine the converse. Which is better a boomer? Or a boomer that has stayed socially adaptable enough to be able to prosocially enguage with the younger generations? I get you don't want boomers being predatory in other spaces but that is a failure to develop the tools to exclude predatory people. Something about this discourse and skill based match making discourse is kicking around in my head and ai haven't figured out a dialectic answer to all this.

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

All I get from the discourse:

Basic premises: -Abusive relationships exist and are bad (correct, agreed)

-Age gaps, which can represent differences in brain development and life experience, can produce / facilitate abusive relationships (correct, agreed)

My takes: -most of the fuckery of this discourse comes from people wanting to hash out specific and mostly arbitrary age gap limits and numbers, rather than the fundamental causes of abusive relationships (analogous to liberal class as income, vs marxist class as relationship to means of production)

-as I see it, the core of abusive relationships is not being able to leave when things get bad. Most relationships, particularly heterosexual ones, will have various "power imbalances" that are kind of unavoidable, but as long as people can leave if things get bad, that's not inherently a problem. In relationships, the power to safely terminate the relationship is kind of like ultimate power.

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