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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/reddit@lemmy.world

AccidentalRenaissance has no active moderators due to Reddit's unprecedented API changes, and has thus been privated to prevent vandalism.

Resignation letters:

Openminded_Skeptic - https://imgur.com/a/WwzQcac

VoltasPistol - https://imgur.com/a/lnHSM4n

We welcome you to join us in our new homes:

https://kbin.social/m/AccidentalRenaissance

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/accidentalrenaissance

Thank you for all your support!

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Argh, why make 2 communities? >_< Pick one damnit :D

I'm going to the blahaj one

Anyway well done for recognizing the ship is rapidly disintegrating.

[-] vinnythegooch9@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

I was thinking the same thing, it's counterintuitive to the whole point of Lemmy lol

[-] Scanzy@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

It's kind of a massive part of Lemmys design, so I would disagree.

We're going to end up with duplicate instances all over the place. That's just the reality of things. Some of them will become the more popular versions and others will be abandoned, but there's little point to complaining about it.

[-] vinnythegooch9@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah I understand that duplicates will pop up from different people, just found it weird that they would create 2 separate ones themselves. It's hard to find which one to join when both are similar levels of active and I don't love the idea of having to subscribe to both and go to both if I want to see what's being posted. I assumed it was unfamiliarity with how the instances worked but didn't think about seeing if kbin or lemmy would end up being more popular, that does makes sense.

What's wrong with subscribing to both? Then you'd have both in your feed; you wouldn't have to go anywhere.

But yeah we also wanted to make sure to get the name in a couple of places. Didn't expect our resignation letters & whatnot to go a bit more public and get influxes of users and all.

[-] Jaarsh119@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm assuming seeing duplicate posts from the two all the time would be the reason why you wouldn't sub to both. Unless there's like some extensions or something that stop that kinda thing? I'm fairly new to this kind of thing so educate me if I'm wrong

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

it's counterintuitive to the whole point of Lemmy lol

Actually no, it is not. Having multiple smaller communities works to the benefit of users in the Fediverse. One server might be down, and people in those communities can find another community on a different instance to continue discussion until the community of their instance choice comes back up.

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[-] Pamasich@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

I got a response from them on Reddit:

We didn't know which platform would take off, and we were nervous that because Kbin and Lemmy are so similar one platform might shut down in some sort of consolidation down the road. Also when we made them, each had very serious drawbacks for our media (Lemmy needs a lot of clicking to access the media, while kbin turned any media that wasn't in a 3:4 aspect ratio into a funhouse mirror.) So each of us took a community and somewhere down the line we'll re-evaluate.

[-] Scanzy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That makes a lot of sense.

I was tempted to go with kbin when I switched, because it just looks cleaner and better designed. I'm not sure why kbin isn't more popular, but I'm sticking with the pack right now on lemmy.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Personally I started with kbin and think the dev of it is great. But it's simply not as far along IMO. At least when I was using it, it was critically missing the ability to collapse comments. That single feature is huuuuge for me and probably the most prominent thing that got me to switch to Lemmy.

It also doesn't have an API yet, which means that mobile apps aren't likely to target it. Though I've personally been using a browser cause I haven't found any apps to be good enough yet.

Also, the notifications of kbin felt very buggy to me. I missed a lot of notifications and even when they worked, they don't show the notification or even what the thread title is, so you have to click each one individually. IIRC, clicking the notification also didn't work if your comment wasn't on the first page of comments.

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[-] TeaHands@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Given that one of those resignations talks about Beehaw like it's a separate platform entirely, I think it's just some good old fashioned misunderstanding. Looks like they've set up separate user accounts on Lemmy and Kbin too.

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[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 22 points 2 years ago

For everyone who told us that they’d never taken a single art class and they could mod this place better with their eyes closed… Well, consider this a golden opportunity! It’s going to be tricky doing it with your eyes closed ever since Reddit’s painfully botched rollout of “disability friendly” mod tools in their disasterpiece of a mobile app has caused nothing but crashes and bugs, but you seemed so confident in the many (many, many, many) times you’ve expressed this opinion that we can only assume you know something about modding that we don’t!

Is such a fun line.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

test comment.
edit of test comment
edit from culprit browser
edit with only one add-on deactivated

[-] mercurly@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago
[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh my god that was annoying! But yes. Now, I am okay.

Firefox wasn't letting me comment, reply to comments, or edit my comments. I even dragged my home instance's moderator into helping me debug which I feel terrible about. (Especially because I originally described it as a federation error, only later realizing that the glitch was happening on reddthat as well as federated instances.)

After various debugging attempts, he told me to deactivate my extensions... which I hadn't tried for some reason... and it worked instantly. My Bionic Reader Firefox extension in particular turned out being the source of the problem. And now I feel like I've wasted my mod's time trying to debug something that he had no control over, but other than that? I'm okay.

Thanks for asking.

[-] WhyAUsername_1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I mean.. Idk why.. but I love it.. imagining you pulling your hair out trying to troubleshoot this.. haha..

Been there done that..

Cheers mate!

[-] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Damn, that's nice - what a cool mod

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[-] blendedracer@aussie.zone 2 points 2 years ago

This is a masterpiece! Now I miss r/murdered_by_words!

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[-] CommunityLinkFixer@lemmings.world 19 points 2 years ago

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone

[-] VoltasPistol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh damn, that's us!!

We'd wondered where the nearly 1.9k subscribers came from completely out of nowhere!

So, yeah, a lot of people are hating on us for creating one of Kbin and one on Lemmy, but we had our reasons: Basically, neither handled images very well and we saw that these two services did basically the same thing and that typically leads to the weaker project getting cancelled down the line, so we decided our safest bet was just to make one of each, just in case. Better safe than sorry.

We might consolidate them later, but for now just pick whichever you like best. :)

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Just want to say, "it's been swell, but the swelling's gone down" is a fantastic turn of phrase that I will be stealing

[-] VoltasPistol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I stole it from Tank Girl first, but I don't think she'd mind.

[-] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago

We'd wondered where the nearly 1.9k subscribers came from completely out of nowhere!

LoL, that's really great! 🤣🤣🤣

Basically, neither handled images very well

You can always use these to upload image

On lemmy you can use this code to display image

![](https://some.site/image.jpg)

[-] VoltasPistol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

It wasn't the way images uploaded, it was more that kbin's image previews absolutely skullfucked the aspect ratio of anything that wasn't roughly in a 3:4 aspect ratio, making a bunch of deeply touching photos look like goofy funhouse mirrors.

We were like, "Shit.... Is.... Is this on purpose? Are the people behind kbin some kind of weirdos who believe in 3:4 aspect ratio supremacy??" so we thought, "Eh..... Maybe we'd better make a Lemmy too, in case kbin doesn't figure their shit out".

Because, honestly? Our faith in humanity was at an all-time low and we were running out of time before people began leaving reddit for new platforms. Throw everything against the wall and see what sticks, right?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is the sort of action I love to see. Reddit thinks they own the moderators who are working for free. They want slaves. Fuck them.

[-] Pumpkinbot@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

From the very start, ever subreddit should have challenged Reddit and called their bluff. Go ahead, replace the mods for thousands of subreddits. If a few dozen are changed, that's no problem. Whatever. But thousands? Good luck.

The whole protest seemed so half-hearted from the start. You don't go on strike with a set end-date in mind. You go on strike indefinitely until demands are met or a satisfactory compromise is made.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I will say that the short blackout was enough to get me onto the Fediverse. I didn't even use the apps that would be affected by the API shutdown, so I never would have noticed the controversy without the blackout.

But once the blackout was announced, I recognized how far reddit was willing to go in service of harvesting its users' data. And after that point, I just didn't feel good on the site anymore. (Granted, I first created an account on Mastodon because the people calling for blackouts never mentioned Lemmy. But still!)

Between Facebook's notification system repeatedly failing to direct me to comment replies, Twitter DDoSing itself, and reddit turning into the Eye of Sauron (which, again, I would not have even noticed happening were it not for the short protest), it seemed like the perfect time to exit the sinking ship of corporate social media.

Meaning they did something. Maybe they didn't avert the reddit apocalypse, but they still did something.

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[-] ItsWizardTime@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I was saying this from day one, we aren't teachers or nurses or someone who may feel they owe society some information about their strike.

People literally could not promise to stay away from a website for a week. The strike should have been indefinite it was our chance to try and save it. Now it's lost to me.

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[-] spez@lemmus.org 7 points 1 year ago

Do not worry, I already replaced them!

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Feel kind of honored. One of the posts that the founding mod pulled over was a pic of my dog.

https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/564838

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[-] OtakuAltair@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

!accidentalrenaissance@lemmy.blahaj.zone for us lemmy folks

...why did they make two comms though when kbin and lemmy work together?

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe because, like me, they don't understand the difference

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

do I have to subscribe to two? 🙃

[-] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Okay, those are some mods I can respect.

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[-] Tygr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

This has been awesome. I’m finding out about communities I’ve never known about but starting with Lemmy to follow. Thanks Reddit for making all of the worst decisions all at once.

I REALLY like it here the most. After a couple weeks, I’m barely missing it over there (I really miss Apollo, not Reddit, thank you to Voyager for providing a similar experience).

[-] Resethel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Reddit’s and Twitter’s recent move have been the best thing that happened to the Fediverse.

Hope we’re getting close to the critical mass required for more people to start adopting it !

[-] Casmael@geddit.social 2 points 2 years ago

Welcome to LemmyVille it’s nice here we have

  • dietary advice
  • antique meme
  • screenshot
  • bean

I love accidental renaissance one of my favourite subs x

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