My mom's husband literally did this. He was wearing a "Trump 2024" hat all through Biden's administration. Then Trump took office and after a month he stopped wearing it and started wearing his second amendment hat and won't make eye contact with me anymore.
He sounds like a tool, but credit where credit is due: he didn't double down on it like what a lot of other Trump supporters are doing.
That's not enough. They still support the same anti trans, anti immigrant, anti poor, pro-biggotry policies. They just think Trump is doing them wrong.
Exactly. The "quiet" Republicans want and vote for the same things, they're just cowards about showing who they truly are...
Meh. More republican blaming someone else. It's the libs, it's the illegals, it's the schools, it's anybody but me... No, it was you. Actively rejecting any outside information, actively causing harm, voting for objectively awful people, willful ignorance, and letting hatreds and fear drive your thought processes. You took the lie and ran with it, made it bigger, and have set the stage for the end of democracy. Yeah, admit you were wrong. Then we might actually believe you might change.
Here’s the problem, though, do you think they’ve learned their lesson enough to understand that voting for hateful narcissist is probably not a good idea in the future. What do we do with people who don’t think that stuff concerns them until it does ?
100% agree but we need them in order to ~~right the ship~~ rebuild the ship, and holding a grudge is how we push these idiots further right into the open arms of grifters ready and willing to use them against us. We have to be the grifters. We have to grift them into lowering their defenses, taking in new information, and making logical decisions. And some, I assume, are good people (sorry!) led astray by sixty years of propaganda and republican weakened education and mental healthcare systems. We can feel however we want inside our hearts, but like MLK said "Hate begets hate; violence begets violence; toughness begets a greater toughness. We must meet the forces of hate with the power of love."
I know, I hate it too, but I will meet that hate with love, too. I guess.
I can't help but wonder what the breaking point was.
Trump was "hurting the wrong people" when he increased taxes on the poor and started attacking social security Medicaid/Medicare. He was only supposed to attack LGBT+, minorities, immigrants, the poor, and non-traditional families.
Didn't he increase taxes on the poor in 2017?
But it took a few years to take effect. It was the whole, 'the new tax breaks go away, but not for the corporations.'
They don't realize this yet.
Even when they do, few will admit it.
I wish I knew people in 2004 who defended the afghanistan/iraq war. I'd ask them today if they still feel it was justified.
Some do, some don’t. Check the change in bush’s approval ratings for a decent approximation of likelihood
My coworker said the other day he wished trump would be more like W Bush (both he voted for) so i presume not only does he still think it was good but wants more of it
I’m trying to not talk about it for my sanity
That's really not one conflict. Conflating them was what the US regime at the time tried to do to whitewash their decisions.
Also, at least you do know people who were completely cool when everyone just pulled out of Afghanistan leaving the folk that worked with them to suffer the reprisals of the Taliban, so ask them if it was worth it.
Also, at least you do know people who were completely cool when everyone just pulled out of Afghanistan leaving the folk that worked with them to suffer the reprisals of the Taliban, so ask them if it was worth it.
You mean the Trump plan? That Trump developed? No, we were not cool with it
Do you think those two wars were equivalent?
They were both unnecessary wastes of life and resources that were started for all the wrong reasons, so kind of.
Fair but I would argue that as Al Qaeda was in Afghanistan and they attacked the USA that war is different than Iraq which never attacked the USA.
The Taliban tried to give America Osama Bin Laden but they wanted something in exchange, so they invaded and suffered 20 years of war over such audacious demands.
The thing about Al-Qaeda and 9/11 is that it was always a Saudi operation.
Al Qaeda was all over the place. Wasn't a single Afghani on any of those planes. There were, however, 15 Saudis (out of 19 hijackers). The attack was planned by a Saudi. The organization was run by a Saudi, and funded by Saudis.
Oh they act like there were bad actors that manipulated the innocent US. The president was just making the best decisions he could smh.
Oh they think they saved it, while their food stamps are going away and tariffs are going into place.
Don't forget how their taxes went up to pay for the tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy
There was a rumor going around that everybody was going to get checks from DOGE, people were talking about what they would do with the money when they got it.
I've got a coworker askeng when the no tax on overtime takes effect. The other day he was going on about it passing and every Democrat voting against it. I told him that the bill didn't say anything about no tax on overtime, it still has to pass the Senate, and it's going to cause Medicaid to collapse. He just denies, saying Medicaid isnt going to go away.
He just denies, saying Medicaid isnt going to go away.
"It could never happen here! Why would they just ruin people's lives like that? They're just getting rid of government waste! Now pardon me, I have some more sand to stick my head in."
I also have coworkers like that. My condolences.
None of the ones in my circle have recognized it nor do I think they will. They're going down and taking the rest of us with them.
I've seen a few that have admitted regret. Unfortunately not enough of them.
It's beginning
maga realizing something. Lol
Can't spell hatred without red hat...
Yeah... I'm going to be borrowing that one.
They don't fuckin care. They asked for this.
Yeah right. More like: https://i.imgur.com/UrMytZO.png
They are the double down dunces
Make MAGA great again
At least they owned the libs!
If by libs they specifically meant "Leader Integrity in Bureaucratic Systems," they certainly did.
Must be some oracle from the distant future. Present-day MAGA is vastly far from any such insight.
I just think they're neat!
