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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by JustSo@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Preface: I was curious about this so I did some research. I read some rather upsetting and disgusting things. I noticed some comrades were also uninformed on this stuff so I am sharing what I have learned. I have done my best to treat this topic respectfully. Links at the bottom if you don't care to read my rambling effortpost. If, like me, your reaction to being told the dunk tank has "racist roots" was a lib'd out "yeah, but reeeeally tho?" I suggest you go read the Jim Crow Museum links and hopefully you too will be revolted by what you see and will also recognise the importance of the community name change.

I assume this has already been discussed here, since I didn't really see anyone go ???? about that aspect of the c/*_tank critique. I didn't ask for infoz or clarity on this in the midst of the recent strugglebrawl because that's not really what everyone was fighting about. But while I've been catching up on some spin-off threads discussing the recent turmoil I've seen some of my fellow uninformeds express skepticism over whether that "long ago" history was really relevant, whether anyone would really associate dunk tanks with their apparent and maybe obscure racist history, that sort of thing.

long self indulgent rambling about my experience with dunk tanks irl and reflecting on my knee-jerk assumptionsI was mildly skeptical myself, like "I guess they had black people on the receiving end of the humiliation originally/in some places" "probably problematic, but also probably we're just erring on the side of abundance of caution for the most vulnerable people" "heh, amerikkkans."

Maybe skeptical isn't the right word- good people with more knowledge than me were saying it was problematic/tone-deaf/hurtful and that was/is good enough for me.

Still, I had no idea about this history and I was curious about it, so I did some searches to catch myself up. I am not from the United Snakes, but dunk tanks were (are?) a thing in my settler country too. I remember them at school fairs and rural easter shows (etc) growing up.

Usually the person in the tank was a "respected" member of the community- at a school fair it might have been the principle or vice principle, at a local show it was often a fellow student volunteer/worker, or a local council person. Or it was a professional clown.

My experiences were in a shithole so infested with cracker bigotry that I copped years of bullying for being a different type of white person. I'm not sure we had any people of colour to do cruelty to. (Mild exaggeration, there were two (2) racial minority families and they copped brutal bald faced racist abuse and violence.)

Dunk tanks also featured on kids TV in those zany slime and ooze based obstacle course game shows. Very normalised. There was no apparent racial component in my experience, so I assumed that this was not an inherent part of the dunk tank game.


All that to say: my personal experience is totally irrelevant and my assumptions couldn't have been more wrong.

This is my current understanding:

Firstly: The genesis of the Dunk Tank WAS inextricably linked to brutal, sometimes fatal, often disfiguring and brain damaging racial violence for the entertainment of white people.

When the Dunk Tank was created in America it was part of a progressive-for-the-time reform that replaced a hugely popular game that went by several names, the only one of which I'm comfortable typing out is "African Dodger" - the aim of the game was to throw a baseball (allegedly, usually, a lighter ball than was used in actual baseball) or eggs at a black man poking his head out between some curtains.

Ball for African Dodger

It appears that it was not uncommon for people to bring their own heavy balls to the game to use instead. There are multiple stories sourced from newspaper articles of the time that report on local professional baseball players attending to pitch at the victim. Some assholes just threw rocks.

There are a number of upsetting stories detailing the damage done to the victims. Horrible stuff to read- the degree of physical damage to teeth, eyes, faces and heads. Multiple deaths.

The Dunk Tank did not (immediately) replace African Dodger everywhere, but where it was introduced it was more or less a stand-in for the earlier "game" trading physical violence for humiliation. It was still about doing cruel shit to black men for fun at the carnival.

African Dodger continued to be a thing until at least the 1950s, overlapping the introduction of the Dunk Tank by about 40 years. During that time, whether the white-people-do cruelty-to-black-people game was about inflicting physical damage or inflicting humiliation (dodge or dunk) depended on where you lived and whether locals were still comfortable smashing people's faces in and cracking skulls to impress their girlfriends.

Both games were a vehicle for violence, abuse and degradation of black men for sport.

If you want to subject yourself to the gory details, slurs, offensive promotional posters etc, these are my sources for this part:
https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2012/october.htm
https://freedium.cfd/https://dalebrumfield.medium.com/non-lethal-lynching-f9ee5bbbfbcc (medium post, paywall bypassed)
https://ameripics.wordpress.com/2016/01/10/the-african-dodger/
https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2019/september.htm


Secondly: Yes, people do still know this history and associate dunk tanks with white supremacy and racial violence. This issue is not just concern trolling / a convenient cover excuse to modify hexbear culture as I have seen suggested or implied in the wake of the happening.

School district bans dunk tanks this year, presumably because people were upset with and/or alienated by the continuation of this foul legacy into the modern age after the black victim was generally replaced with a clown.
https://www.mapleridgenews.com/community/no-more-dunk-tanks-for-maple-ridge-and-pitt-meadows-schools-7374988

2019 article about dunk tanks being phased out. It's wishy washy on whether that is because people are uncomfortable with its legacy or because people are bothered by the modern dunk tank clown heckling and insulting them to bark customers to the game, but still, this has evidently been a subject of modern mainstream discourse:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/07/style/insult-clowns.html

2019 Jim Crow Museum website responding to a reader query about the retirement of the dunk tank from "polite society" (hah..) https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/question/2019/september.htm

2022 article about the same thing, mentions NAACP helping to ban the explicitly racial implementation of the dunk tank by the end of the 1950s: https://www.pushblack.us/news/troubling-history-dunk-tank-carnival-games

2023 blog post: https://allthatsinteresting.com/african-dodger

2024 EXCELLENT blog post, loss of urban amusement parks and carnivals as third places. Segregation in those venues etc. ctrl-f Drop the Chocolate, or a Black man in a dunk tank to jump to the part most relevant to this effortpost, with an interesting observations about the awkwardness of continuing these sorts of games while black men were dying in the trenches of WW1.
https://www.melaninbasecamp.com/trip-reports/2024/3/29/third-places-lost-to-racism-urban-amusement-parks

Random other interesting post about dunk tanks not making it into the San Fran 1915 expo. Interesting/challenging photos: http://davegilson.com/african-dip.html

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Between the genocide and the Cheney's. Absolutely disgusted and saddened by this world lately.

Yes I'm glad Kamala ate shit in this election, the Democrats deserve to lose forever. I am starting to lose remaining respect for people irl who still support them and it pains me because people I love have abstracted and dismissed a genocide as an "election issue".

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ButtBidet@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

covid-cool

SAN DIEGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Arcturus Therapeutics Holdings Inc. (the “Company”, “Arcturus”, Nasdaq: ARCT), a commercial messenger RNA medicines company focused on the development of infectious disease vaccines and opportunities within liver and respiratory rare diseases, today announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued a “Study Can Proceed” notification for the Company’s Investigational New Drug (IND) application, ARCT-2304, a self-amplifying mRNA (sa-mRNA) vaccine candidate for active immunization to prevent pandemic influenza disease caused by H5N1 virus. The clinical study is funded by Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) and designed to enroll approximately 200 healthy adults in the United States.

The Phase 1 clinical trial is designed to evaluate the safety, reactogenicity, and immunogenicity of ARCT-2304 as a potential vaccine to protect against the highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza.

"Arcturus is actively engaged with the U.S. government to prepare for the next pandemic, and clearance to proceed into the clinic with our STARR® self-amplifying mRNA technology is a key step in this important process,” said Joseph Payne, President & CEO of Arcturus Therapeutics. “The Phase 1 clinical trial is designed to evaluate the safety, reactogenicity, and immunogenicity of ARCT-2304 as a potential vaccine to protect against the highly pathogenic H5N1 avian influenza.”

About ARCT-2304

ARCT-2304 is a sa-mRNA vaccine candidate formulated within a lipid nanoparticle (LNP). The sa-mRNA vaccine candidate is designed to make many copies of mRNA within the host cell after intramuscular injection to achieve enhanced expression of haemagglutinin (HA) and neuraminidase (NA) antigens, thereby enabling lower doses than conventional mRNA vaccines. Utilizing a mRNA-based platform for pandemic influenza vaccine development offers further options for meeting domestic vaccine manufacturing surge capacity goals. The technology may make vaccines available much sooner than egg- and cell-based technologies. The lyophilized vaccine formulation is stable in refrigerators, thereby simplifying cold-chain storage and reducing distribution risks.

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The damage is done! Hundreds of thousands fell for this fucking kids analysis. This person spent a shit ton of time promoting Whitmer. No pushback from the Chapo Boys. Did they not know? Or just not care?

This MFer promoted Harris a fuck ton in terms of being electable and popular. We're better than this. What happened? Millennials wanted to be feel young by being around young folks? Or the lack of Matt letting this shit get out of hand? I really gotta know. I'm furious.

Now this scumbag is pretending they get to play both sides. Shit aint' right, but I see people embracing the lies. FUCK THIS.

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I've seen so many pictures of him looking at him like he's a pest. I think it'd be funny if he gave him the finger and Elon would be sooooo butthurt.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by SerLava@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

I made a substack for this so you can send it to your libbed up friends and family. Also like/comment on the article that would be cool, im sure that helps spread it somehow

Premise: A lot of great socialist and left-leaning people have dismantled the main point of the Bidenomics argument by showing that many millions of people were left behind. This article is coming in to destroy what little remains after that - even the best case scenario is still just wrong and delusional.

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In southern Gaza, people are living in indescribable suffering. Hunger threatens the lives of children and families, amid a severe shortage of food and resources. Every passing day intensifies the tragedy, leaving them facing death from hunger. They are in urgent need of support before it’s too late. https://gofund.me/1222af19

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Republicans are projected to keep control of the House of Representatives, handing the party total control of Washington with former President Trump back in the White House in January.

Decision Desk HQ projected the GOP would hold the House by winning its 218th seat on Monday, the number needed for a majority in the lower chamber.

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by doublepepperoni@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Like the Republicans lean too heavily into enforcing their Christian culture war bullshit, ban GTAVI and obscenity and alienate the porn and video game-loving young dude demographic. Also Trump blows up the economy and then dies, Vance becomes president and conservatives become the lame fuddy duddy nerds that everyone hates again

Alternatively, Gen Z men have all become NoFap wahhabists and welcome the bans

spoiler

this speculation is very unserious

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catgirl-salute thank you for your service

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In case you don't get it, that's Ella Emhoff and this post is making fun of that one post of Barron Trump after Trump lost in 2020.

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Beria was a certified gem poster

srsUnironically should've been executed for this ngl

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the most embarrassing thing about this particular struggle session (no i will not read any of the posts) is the revelation that there's a large community filled with discord mods who are having what they consider to be Very Important discussions about the website all day

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/432929

It may sound a little condescending, or like I’m bragging about something as elementary as putting on my pants or brushing my teeth, but I wouldn’t say that this thread is entirely unjustified either considering how so many adults are (almost) clueless about the subject.

It took me only 0.5–1 hour(s) to master this, and any frustration that I had was minor.

(If you are experiencing graphical glitches like giant text boxes, see here for advice.)

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Russia wants Trump to win, right? Well, Trump only won because of Joe Biden doing nothing for 4 years, then staying in the race despite being clearly too demented to be competent right up until it was too late- these actions DIRECTLY resulted in TRUMP'S ELECTION.

JUST LIKE PUTIN WOULD HAVE WANTED

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If people don't stop being so inflamed about this newest drama I, Moo Deng, will become a most vicious killer.

Chill......or else ima chomp ya.

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