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The U.S already has a deep, labyrinthine set of railroads for transporting materials to other military bases and depots/manufacturing sites across nearly the entire country.
As a big tunnel enthusiast I would love to read about this
Do you have a source for this because that is not something I have ever heard of nor do i think it is technologically feasible with current tech. Digging tunnels that long and especially deep ones would run into so many issues i can't even imagine how youd do it.
Just to put this into perspective. Gothard base tunnel in Switzerland was 35 miles long and cost 13 billion dollars. To go coast to coast with those costs would be trillions. And that tunnel wasnt built to be hardened against nuclear attacks, or bunker busters either. If you go deeper it gets more expensive. You need climate control systems to control geothermal heat. You need pumps to keep it from flooding. You need ventilation systems ever so often to bring in air from the surface. You need emergency exits so if part of it collapses people arent trapped inside.
When making them that long you have to dodge volcanoes, aquifers, natural cave systems, mines, seismic activity hotspots etc. Making dozens to hundreds of mile long detours for each. It would take decades just to dig them, and where would you put all the rock, and soil you take out? Your basically digging up multiple entire mountains worth it has to go somewhere.
I mean seriously the USA can't even build a single HSR line on the surface do we think they'd somehow build an entire underground network of rail when its 100x harder and more expensive?
From what I was told, there was all of that. I have zero doubt the U.S can build the infrastructure it needs. You can see the demonstrations of these in Florida or when the U.S Civil Engineers actually decides to do something with a public project; and that's something more commercial/environmental with less manpower and funding.
Will it do it for civilians? Absolutely not. Only for essential/top-demand things in the military. All of the other stuff is handled by private citizens/contractors.
The United States has consistently failed billion+ dollar audits for it's already incredibly labyrinthine defense industry. While I don't doubt that it is mostly grift and corruption, I also don't doubt that the U.S is consistently funneling dark money into horrors and projects like these.
I can absolutely believe for a moment that when it comes to military infrastructure deemed essential and important to the military, it can be built. New technology, R&D however? No. The matter of moving mountains and everything you described can be done with todays technology. I don't believe they're hauling grey aliens across the country in tunnels reaching the mantle/core of the earth in Hyperborea.
I would believe that there are unloading stations with surface-level connections across the country. Not all of it is "Deep underground". There are railroads to military sites and those aren't commonly accessible to the average person. Other people in the military have said similar things about underground access points. It's all anecdotal, of course.
Other than Greer bullshit and other military members corroborating it, no, not particularly.
I worked with a older Puerto-Rican guy who was in the DIA in the 70s. Not sure if he passed now due to prostate cancer as he had it when I knew him. Curious on the topic of "D.U.M.B.S" I asked him if he knew anything about them. He personally told me that when he worked in a position of a pole-jockey/intelligence officer that he was "tasked with listening in" to other military bases/military communications. He said had to take an 8 minute elevator ride straight downwards in the Arizona desert "super-fast" and that he heard of transfers/shipments being sent underground from one coast to another, mostly between different places in the mid-west, though.
Thought it was bullshit until he straight up showed me his history at his place, patches, ID, etc. Guy didn't really give a fuck anymore. Have no idea if he would/I would get into trouble but I'm assuming if he's telling me all this there shouldn't be an issue. He wasn't the joker/fuck around type and wouldn't tell me anything else about his history. Probably some heinous shit.
He worked in NYC doing construction for the rail before then, that's about it.
In the military I was... Privy to certain info and worked around sensitive programs. I can tell you 100% that there are dudes in every gov sector who will straight up make up bullshit or wildly embellish their experiences.
I believe it. I'm well aware too and it could be embellishment or him exaggerating. Maybe he just decided to randomly fuck with me. Could be totally bullshit.
At the same time, I could also totally believe it.
A high speed elevator for over a minute would put him very deep and it would get very very hot, to the point of it being deadly. A lot of the stories I heard had a commonality of somehow changing the laws of physics. Another element is why they would even try it. A lot of MIC grifter concepts advertise fantasies to the generals and joint chiefs because it sells, and the top brass usually doesn't know shit about science and engineering. The actual implementation of projects (if they ever break ground at all) ends up being more practical. So the question of why, going that deep will quickly have diminishing returns - it's still subject to earthquakes, and nobody has bunker busters like the US does. Extremely deep places would be a nightmare for infrastructure upkeep due to the heat alone. The only time people dig really deep to where it gets hot is because the earth has something in the soil that will bring more money than it cost to get there. A straight train tunnel will only occasionally hit a valuable mineral, so the whole idea of the project will only be cost.
It simply doesn't add up my friend, it provides no advantage to flying out to a bunker, and only presents extreme costs.
Fair enough.
At the same time, I don't like dismissing everything I hear from ex-service members as bullshit. I can believe he was exaggerating or embellishing things, but I don't think he was completely fabricating it. I thought one of my friends who was a combat engineer venting about how he had to use a vegetation cleaner on a child was bullshit too (way younger) until he blew his own head off.
Yikes!! Sorry to hear that. Yeah, there's def hidden bunkers and tunnels that aren't publicly known. But they're not like some mole people level network across one of the largest countries in the world.