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[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 84 points 1 month ago

what are they even turning fascist for? it's not like there's communists anywhere near europe right now, are we just going to start doing pogroms against immigrants now? fucking worthless "continent" and i use that very loosely

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 86 points 1 month ago

what are they even turning fascist for?

The usual reason: "things are bad? It isn't our fault, it's the fault of the marginalized out-group! Destroy them!" capitalist-laugh

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 45 points 1 month ago

While the Russia-Ukraine war made things worse for Germans, far right has been on the ascend for a while and things weren't even that bad in Germany! Like lots of issues with the German center-right, but they were doing a good job of extracting wealth from the rest of the EU.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

The previous nazi surge rode on post WW1 anguish, grief, and poverty. What the fuck is the excuse now?

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Anxiety and rage about incipient climate collapse probably, coupled with the universal alienation that they especially have no vocabulary to grapple with

[-] BobDole@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

If only there had been some German philosopher they could read to inform them about capitalist alienation. Ah well

[-] Des@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Anxiety and rage about incipient climate collapse probably

I can believe that, particularly the redirected rage where they'd rather punch down on climate refugees than punch up toward the planet burners themselves.

[-] gueybana@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

Last time they took it out on mostly white minorities. The excuses don’t even have to be air tight

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 36 points 1 month ago

Love to be in danger eventually by being a marginalized out-group popuko-finger

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 50 points 1 month ago

Fascism doesn't require the threat of communism to exist, it simply requires capitalism to start showing signs of failure and then those who profit circle the wagons around their hoarded wealth and you're gonna get a fascism out of that if people don't stomp it down and replace capitalism so it can't happen again. They're the immune response of capitalism. The white power blood cells if you will.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago

Europeans have been shitting their pants about Muslims for decades now

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago
[-] weeen@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

someone in Germany stubs their toe

the polls: i-am-adolf-hitler

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago

the amount of concentrated hitler-detector that stem from a single german are enough to put the particle accelerator to shame

[-] blame@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago

i dont think fascism requires the presence of communism to show up. Neoliberalism is destroying everything, the anger and energy of the masses has to be directed somewhere and there are only a few possible ways for it to go. Fascism is the least bad for the bourgeoisie.

[-] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah and it is much easier (I.e. less pushback) to direct that towards the vulnerable and under privileged than those with power, guns, and money. One of those could get you killed.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

I think you're landing on why allusions to historical fascism or the interwar period are kind of a limiting framework to understanding these parties

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Europe has been steadily losing its neocolonial grip on the Global South, so it is inevitable they turn to fascism in hopes of reasserting their position as colonial metropoly.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Does fascism really need an actual communist enemy now that they're all convinced that even the blandest liberals are literally Mao reborn though?

I'm thinking no. And that's kinda scary.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Because they think muslims are a subhuman horde destroying Western™ civilization, and it's all orchestrated by the Woke©®™ (usually they mean jewish communists controlling society secretly)

[-] kittin@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

The Germanic brain pan is incapable of complex thought and so turns to simplistic tribalism instead of civilization

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 month ago

Few Germanic brainpans developed scientific socialism so hold your horses there.

[-] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

It's a peninsula at best

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