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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 76 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Does anyone here have a guess as to why Israel is trying to solo the entire ~~Arab world~~ Middle East in the middle of an ongoing colonial uprising?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 77 points 3 months ago

I can think of two possibilities:

  1. They're copying Nixon's "Madman Theory", where by being violent and unpredictable they can extract greater concessions from their opponents. This is your "De-Escalation through Escalation" they were talking about a while ago.
  2. Israel now views this as an existential conflict and is trying to disable their opponents while they still have enough munitions to do so.
[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

I hope they lose

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 67 points 3 months ago
[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

The fuck, how did I just learn this today

[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Yeah I'm already not looking forward to all the times I'm going to have to correct people referring to Iranians as "Arabs"

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 49 points 3 months ago

lebensraum speedrun any%

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 43 points 3 months ago

Israel doesn't solo anything. They are a hand of the US wearing a blue and white flag

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago

They may see with the US risking getting into a war with Russia and wanting a war with China that their own time to pull the US into a conflict to settle the region's problems in their favor using the might of the US is quickly drawing to a close and will likely not exist in a few years so why let a crisis go to waste when they can try and get the US to take out Iran and Hezbollah for them which would allow greater "isreal" to become a reality. It's an expansionist mindset too. Also fascists gonna fascist.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The only way towards de-escalation is coming to the negotiating table with Hamas. Negotiating with Hamas sets a bad precedent and, in the long term, compromise's the entity's ability to keep Palestine down. Their economy is already severely compromised as it is, so I think that going out with some kind of last hurrah and trying to accomplish all their goals at once is probably more appealing than having to back down, recover, and attempt to do it all again a decade from now.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 29 points 3 months ago

because the US wants this -- gotta get WW3 nice and hot without having the blame

[-] LigOleTiberal@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

US is out here using WW3 to unify it's own citizens who are currently heading towards civil war behind jingoistic wartime patriotism, while also being a huge boon to the US economy through wartime production.

WW2 was great for the US, why wouldn't WW3?

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

that seems pretty on the mark. i recall my high school teacher talking about WW2 as if it were one of the greatest things to ever happen in history

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago

The realpolitik ghoul reason would be that they're trying to start a big enough war that the only way the US can secure its interests in the region is to get directly involved, saving Israel from the consequences of its other aggressions.

But I don't think it's actually realpolitik ghouls in charge, I think they've just got nazis at the helm, and nazis think that all problems can be solved by attacking the weak, and all people are weaker than them.

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