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[-] daniyeg@hexbear.net 120 points 2 weeks ago

i just woke up from the explosions what the hell

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 76 points 2 weeks ago
[-] daniyeg@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

thanks hopefully israel will fall and we don't have to worry about being bombed anymore.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 76 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Does anyone here have a guess as to why Israel is trying to solo the entire ~~Arab world~~ Middle East in the middle of an ongoing colonial uprising?

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 77 points 2 weeks ago

I can think of two possibilities:

  1. They're copying Nixon's "Madman Theory", where by being violent and unpredictable they can extract greater concessions from their opponents. This is your "De-Escalation through Escalation" they were talking about a while ago.
  2. Israel now views this as an existential conflict and is trying to disable their opponents while they still have enough munitions to do so.
[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

I hope they lose

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 67 points 2 weeks ago

Iran isnt in the arab world

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago

The fuck, how did I just learn this today

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 65 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have used this example before: imagine you have a revolver with six bullets - they will become obsolete and unable to deal any damage to your enemy in 10 years.

While you only have a 10% chance of killing your enemies right now, it will be 1% in 10 years time.

What will you do?

Do you use those bullets now hoping to deal at least some lasting damage to your enemies, or do you hoard them until nobody is afraid of them anymore?

For Zionists, this will be the end of their ideology, the end of their ethnostate project. What becomes of Zionism when it comes to that? It makes sense they have to deal damage now than later.

(The bullets are US/Israeli air superiority, and what will make it obsolete are modern Russian air defense systems that once supplied to Iran, will end Western air supremacy altogether in the Middle East)

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[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago

lebensraum speedrun any%

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago

Israel doesn't solo anything. They are a hand of the US wearing a blue and white flag

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

They may see with the US risking getting into a war with Russia and wanting a war with China that their own time to pull the US into a conflict to settle the region's problems in their favor using the might of the US is quickly drawing to a close and will likely not exist in a few years so why let a crisis go to waste when they can try and get the US to take out Iran and Hezbollah for them which would allow greater "isreal" to become a reality. It's an expansionist mindset too. Also fascists gonna fascist.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The only way towards de-escalation is coming to the negotiating table with Hamas. Negotiating with Hamas sets a bad precedent and, in the long term, compromise's the entity's ability to keep Palestine down. Their economy is already severely compromised as it is, so I think that going out with some kind of last hurrah and trying to accomplish all their goals at once is probably more appealing than having to back down, recover, and attempt to do it all again a decade from now.

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

because the US wants this -- gotta get WW3 nice and hot without having the blame

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[-] Owl@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

The realpolitik ghoul reason would be that they're trying to start a big enough war that the only way the US can secure its interests in the region is to get directly involved, saving Israel from the consequences of its other aggressions.

But I don't think it's actually realpolitik ghouls in charge, I think they've just got nazis at the helm, and nazis think that all problems can be solved by attacking the weak, and all people are weaker than them.

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 65 points 2 weeks ago

Here we go. Now did they have an ounce of sense and just pound the desert and a few unimportant places and claim otherwise in their propaganda so Iran has an out not to retaliate in kind? Or more likely did these deranged zionists hit important things and Iran has to hit back even harder and kill US troop scum manning their air defenses as well? At which point the US can either leave with its tail between its legs like Reagan did Lebanon in the 80s or escalate in some way including potentially war.

I hope the people of Iran remain safe regardless of outcome. I hope the colonizers of the zionist occupation continue to feel and be very unsafe as they should be until they stop their genocide and dismantle their apartheid regime.

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago

I just want these fucking people to be able to live their lives. These genocidal freaks need their capacity for violence wrested from them because they are making hell on Earth by hurting vulnerable people - especially children.

[-] TonoManza@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 2 weeks ago

US supported genocidal apartheid state opening up a 3rd front? Where have I seen that before?

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[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 49 points 2 weeks ago

Were they actual military targets or just apartment buildings and hospitals again?

[-] TheFinalCapitalist@hexbear.net 47 points 2 weeks ago

you forget that those hospitals are hamasbollah

[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

apparently they struck "across the city of Tehran" according to US state tv news

[-] FugaziArchivist@hexbear.net 45 points 2 weeks ago

timed with Game 1 of World Series?

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 2 weeks ago

Not how I was expecting to get reminded the world series started

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[-] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago

fuck me i already bought a fifth of gin planning on drinking tonight. god damn israel and the united states

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

I'm trying to save some of my whisky for when Biden croaks in a month.

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[-] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck

I knew I shouldn't have wished to live in interesting times

[-] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It sort of bothers me how wishing works.

"I want something to be a little better."

Your suffering shall be immense

Like okay? Fuck you, asshole genie.

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 37 points 2 weeks ago

So like, this is the end of Israel yeah? I just don't see how the Israeli state can continue

[-] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago
[-] miz@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

British Braaaaapcasting Corporation and all they do is broadcast fart noises

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[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So good bye Gulf state/American oil refineries and hello potential oil crisis 2.0? or would this be an exaggeration?

[-] Doubledee@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

It seems like it's a bit early to tell. Iran doesn't want to escalate, if these attacks are limited they might not up the ante, like last time.

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

presstv is playing this attack down, saying limited damage and their air defence did their jobs.

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[-] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

It would have been less humiliating for the zionist regime to have just apologized and did nothing.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

Seems like they did essentially 0 damage, thankfully for the people of Tehran. Apparently they might have hit an essentially empty rev guard training base lol.

[-] BlackDragon@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

i was here when israel decided to go out guns blazing

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

CLIP from Terhan you can see flares from Air defense go up. Explosions in the air and hear bunch of pops.

Not going to know the extent of this for a bit and theres word a lot of misinfo going around, we're in the fog right now.

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[-] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

Very, very bad.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

Here we go again doggirl-sweat

[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

Say the thing Bart!

There's no way this could end badly

Hurray!!

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