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Oh shit new bear thread with more comments than votes fuck yeah gotta pull this up on my middle goon cave monitor for some background reading

For real though fuck this site for teaching me what a gooner is you can all go to hell for that one

radlib take. sex is great, and people should be having it, and online pornography, which commodifies the most intimate and shared human experiences, and only serves to further atomize and alienate us from each other and ourselves, sucks. it produces less sex and less intimacy; it creates a market which degrades and exploits.

we easily diagnose mindless consumption as bad and deadening of the spirit, but yet people refuse to admit this when it comes to frictionless consumption of sexual gratification. why is this, why is the need to signal that one isn't a prude require an endorsement of gooning?

volcel vanguard is just to keep people from being weird when nobody asked, I don't see a problem with it and honestly never would have even associated with with gooner shit if you hadn't mentioned it

People online be like "I just saw a tiktok, new opinion downloaded" and go from there.

Your cringe non-existent gooner epidemic

My wholesome based stimfap epidemic

Sex is good. Porn is often not.

Other than a lot of porn being exploitative in it's production, overconsumption of porn is very common, and often contributes to people having weird attitudes to over sexualising women.

It fucks with your reward system. You can absolutely become addicted. It's not a particularly healthy habit. You can desensitise yourself to real sex and change the way you're able to enjoy it.

In these times, where you get served up porn content on your explore page for no good reason, I think porn consumption can easily become unhealthily pushed upon you.

The volcel police meme is a bit tired now, but I do think it's good that we keep this site mostly non sexual.

“Oh y’all are genuinely just weird prudes”

Hmm some people maybe

The “gooner epidemic” is not real, gooning is an incredibly niche kink that very few people engage in.

That's true

“Porn addiction” is basically non existent and affects such a small portion of the population as to not be relevant

That's NOT true

We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time.

Agree

There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it.

I strongly disagree, I think boys these days get exposed, and expose themselves, to sexual content far more than even when I was young

Sex is good. We should be having more of it. We should encourage healthy, safe sex featuring whatever kinks you and your partner(s) consent to.

Yes

BTW Let's tone things down, struggle session over GOONING is wild, people

Agreed but I think we can all also agree that when Norman Finkelstein talked about gooning being fascist it was both correct and one of the funniest things ever.

I think there are super healthy and important conversations that should be had society-wide about more openness to sexuality. I think peoples' problems with porn almost entirely exist because there is so little conversation and openness to it in everyday life. Porn becomes everything a person knows or thinks about sex because it's the only place you learn or talk about it in any way.

I do think it'd be neat if this site had some enclosed space for NSFW chats, but it's also not a priority. If it's a binary choice, I'd prefer it be a creep-free zone.

undersocialized young men that don’t know how to interact with people.

You don't even need the "undersocialized" or "young" qualifiers there. However the volcel police meme started back on the old sub it was quickly weaponized to target the sort of omnipresent low-level sexual harassment that creeps do all over reddit and it's managed to persist past the death of the sub and multiple ground shifts in site culture here because it works at suppressing that.

On the one hand porn taught me how to have good sex. When I lost my v-card to my girlfriend she straight up asked me "are you sure you're a virgin" (jokingly since we had good sex together). BUT on the other hand, I've caught myself in the absence of intimacy engaging with porn I wouldn't feel comfortable showing anyone else. So there's for sure a ratchet effect like is common in addiction, to simply say it's not addictive I think is too dismissive.

“We do not live in an overly-sexually-liberated time. There is not an excess of sexual content or exposure to it”

Idk maybe I am ignorant on history, but like…what time but the current would have MORE exposure to sexual content than the current internet age?
I do feel like we are living in one of the most if not the most sexually liberated and over exposed times in history for good or for ill I feel like that’s just obviously the case.

Gooning behaviour the sexual activity? Niche fetish. Never tried it. Never had the time to try it.

Gooning behaviour aka the porn version of being "terminally online"? Annoying at best, community destroying at worst.

Gooning behaviour aka how my friends use it, aka "we have this one friend who refuses to leave the house and we joke that he spends all his time gooning but is actually having a mental crisis and resists all our efforts to help him"? Uh ....

So basically, words are the devil and they lead us astray with their multitudes.

I prefer spaces where sexual talk is kept to a minimum so a little too much Puritanism is a fair trade off for me

First they came for the gooners, and I did not speak up, for I was not a gooner.

honestly voIcel police is just a really tired meme. that said I do really value the anti-horny culture of this particular board, it's played a big part in keeping this a good space for people that aren't cis men I think.