Ah yes, history has shown that this is a good idea. I'm sure it'll end well this time. 
the closest analogue we have to Stalin is fuckin Putin? Good god I hope he's stocking up on Oreshniks
The only Germany that was ever legitimate was East Germany.
Auferstanden aus Ruinen und der Zukunft zugewandt 
Does Europe have a Germany problem or does Germany have a Europe problem.
Like, if it's a forgone conclusion that the Krauts will attempt to rule Europe, we must take a stance. As long as we know there is a Germany that will do this that becomes the constant. The variable, then, is how they succeed and fail with each attempt. The Eternal German, to give it a name.
So the question is: is Europe destined to be German and this is one long series of struggles as the Eternal German waxes and wanes? In which ultimately Europe will be suborned, eventually.
Or is Germany destined for failure every time, and therefore the Eternal German takes the role of the fickle province in constant rebellion against the rest of Europe?
Which way, Western Man?
Europe came closest to achieving political unity under the Nazis, making Adolf Hitler the Qin Shi Huang of Europe (a very cursed phrase). You can see this clearly with this Wikipedia map on Sweden's "neutrality"
Spain, Sweden, and Switzerland were "neutral" who did what Herr Hitler told them to do, leaving only Iceland, Portugal, Ireland, the UK, and the RSFSR as part of Europe that Hitler failed in the project of European unification. Runner-ups of European unification are Napoleon and the EU, which both failed to bring southeast Europe to the unification project.
The Waffen-SS was essentially Europe's first real army, not a European army of some European principality or a European statelet or a European petty kingdom, but a real army of a (near) unified Europe with European men recruited from the entire continent.
And this army was completely staffed by genocidal fascists hopped up on stimulants and tasked to wage a war of annihilation against the Tatar-Mongolic Judeo-Bolshevik hordes of the Soviet Union, demonstrating that the very idea of Europe itself is forever cursed and order will not be restored until Europeans accept their true identity as northwestern Afro-Asians hailing from the continent of Afro-Asia.
Your comment reminds me of this US propaganda video from the US War Department in 1945.
The intro bit where it's just footage of Prussian flags and talking about the Germanic religion of iron and blood... that's the Eternal German right there
If only Varus hadn't lost the battle of the Teutoburg forest, we wouldn't have to worry about all this shit.
I don't think that even mattered, consider guys who did lost later turned out to be UK and France. Though it might be because they became UK and France because repeated conquests by Germans...
The ideal form for Germany is a thousand splintered little fiefdoms fighting over codpiece sizes of their liege lord, inshallah we shall see it happen after they lose next time
Germany managing to go one entire generation without ethnically cleansing Eastern Europe and decides to reward itself with a little treat (the treat is ethnically cleansing Eastern Europe)
None of these weapons will be used to defend Europe. They will sit in a stockpile and be sent to assist yet another genocide in a decade or two.
Stalin come back 
Just can't trust white people with militaries tbh
the adolfs are at it again
Very dissapointed none of you nerds posted the morgenthau apology form
same as it ever was
same as it ever was
same as it ever was
same as it ever was
I so hope this backfires. First of all, I don't think they can pull it off anyway, the corruption and incompetence is off the charts with these people and that's not due to lack of vision (which they also don't have) or whatever, that's systemic. All that money will go into private pockets and fuck-all will be delivered, and thank Allah for that.
Also, this will antagonize other EU countries (well, some of them, I assume the Baltics will hail their German overlords), making it so much easier for nationalist EU-skeptic politicians to gain support.
Yeah, if they do somehow pull it off (which is a big IF), then the rivalry that Europe used to be known for might make a return. The whole idea behind the formation of the EU, which the US helped push for, was to squash this rivalry, unite the European bourgeoisie, and making them both subservient and militarily dependent on the US. I can't imagine that Germany trying to reclaim its position as the European military superpower is going to sit well with countries like France who would prefer that position instead.
First as tragedy, and multiple times over as farce.
Of course the big difference between the historical France/Germany rivaly and a possible future one is France having an independent nuclear weapons capability. Even the UK relies on the US for maintaining - and if rumours are true, being allowed to use - their nuclear weapons. If the EU were to collapse I could see a lot of smaller powers ally with France, under terms very favourable to France, if it meant an ironclad nuclear-response security alliance with France.
My cynical thoughts are:
Germany's military will always be used for NATO aggression. They are already an occupied vassal, American troops are in the country (Rammstein base among others) and the reactionary German armed forces will NEVER use force to remove them, thus they can only be a pawn of them. Additionally most German officers are trained like dogs for loyalty with the American troops, additionally there is evidence the west runs a significant blackmail network as well as a spy network against its own and those officers and members of intelligence who would help the US coup Germany for its benefit are known and written down and will be called upon.
Remember what happened to Australia and Whitmer, there was a non-violent coup using arcane process to oust someone who wanted neutrality, they would absolutely use violent means to do what's necessary. They installed a military dictatorship in Greece in the last cold war and would not hesitate to place Germany or other places under a similar yoke though would likely prefer to oust elements against them and spin up a tail of their treason and with the loyal German empire loving, immigrant scapegoating press I'm sure they'd have little issue at present or the near future doing so.
There are only two hopes I think for near-term freedom from the US yoke:
I saw a take that I fully believe as it so describes the deep mentality of Euro-liberals. Namely that the lesson Euro-liberals who run and love the EU today take from WW2 is that America will come and prevent Russia from de-Nazifying you in a war, and will prop up your fascist, reactionary people, install them in government, protect them and help build and maintain a joint bulwark against Russians and communists. Not that genocide is bad, not that war within Europe is devastating and self-defeating, because the wrong people (Nazis) were all installed in positions of power post-war and they learned to not do fascism openly without American help and that's it and that's why Trump has them so upset because Biden worked them all up to do aggressive support of open lovers of Nazism in Ukraine and now they've been blue-balled or feel the threat of it. Add on their decline, the loss of their neo-colonies in Africa, the drain of industry because of sanctions and its just even worse. And the only ones waiting in the wings to supplant these are the open admirers of fascism, the open far-right reactionary parties prepared to conduct a purge of immigrants, to scapegoat on that basis and build Europe up for war to be used as a tool of the US. They've been gaining in Germany, they've been gaining in France. German government pretended it might try to crush them but its hand was held back by the bourgeoisie who wish to have this tool available soon. It looks bleak.
Maybe the US hold on them slips but I think there's a good chance that the European bourgeoisie without a much bigger stab in the back by the US (more than just abandoning Ukraine) still operate under the post-war delusion that they must maintain links with the US at all costs. More importantly they may be conscious enough of their class to recognize their position and understand the consequences of China rising unchallenged in the long-run and be willing to make a sacrifice as they have been doing for the safety of global capitalist hegemony even at the expense of their local profits.
I earnestly believe this will not have a chance to come to the point of causing tensions with France as they will be welded together, united in purpose to defend "the garden" in an attack on China or an attack on Africa to subjugate it again, to pull it away from BRICS and China and get to extracting again. That or a suicide run on Russia (after which they sit in the ruins of nuclear wasteland and pout at each other and the Americans and whine that the evil Russians ruined it all).
As a German: I think having a military is probably necessary if we ever hope to become less dependent on the US. But on the other hand, I'm 100% confident Merz has the absolute worst ideas possible because he is a worthless parasitic ghoul and the world would be a better place if he was shot.
They are either trying to be an independent imperialist power, or they're just doing the US empire's bidding. Either way it's imperialism. If you believe their insane plans will actually manifest (I doubt it), their goal is to be able to win the next round of war in eastern Europe. Clearly they're not winning this round, so wherever the front settles, they want to be able to do re-match in couple of years.
Also any military expansion will most definitely be buying more US or Israeli military equipment under the instruction of the US. Does Europe have a domestic equivalent to the F-35 fighter jet, and the THAAD, AEGIS Ashore, Arrow, Patriot PAC 3 air defence systems? The answer is no, which is why Germany just bought Arrow 3 air defence (midcourse ballistic missile interception) batteries from Israel last year. Europe has managed to deliver just one SAMP/T air defence battery to Ukraine in the entire war, so domestic production is just not there. The 80 or so cold war era F-16AM block 15s Ukraine are getting from Europe can only be delivered because of a US support package, and US replacements (F-35s) being sent over to the European countries giving up these F-16s. See Macron saying Europe gave Ukraine all it could give. Also, Europe is definitely not buying the Chinese equivalents to those systems, that would not be allowed. These are all critical capabilities in a hypothetical NATO-Russia war.
WW1 and WW2 were fought with German guns, I know not what weapons WW3 will be fought with, but it and WW4 will probably also be German guns.
We don't learn to denazify Germany until at least WW7 or 8.
What could go wrong
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Merz will build it so that AfD has a nice apparatus when they eventually rise to power
Stalin we need you.
Ah shit, here we go again.
How many times we got to teach you this lesson old man!
Look I am not a fan of the attempt to make german military cool again. And I think its going to fail due to general incompetence and lack of young people, I doubt the capitalist would want to miss out on the dwindling amount of new workers for the duration of military service. I also, however must remind everyone, that germany wasnt demilitarized or restrict in any way to act military aggressive post ww2, the only thing that changed was multiple foreign military bases and closer cooperation with other western armies. West Germany had one of the largest military forces during the cold war. This isnt new territory.
3rd time’s a charm!
its happening again 
I just want to point out that this is also completely necessary for europe to break free of american vassalisation.
We can't have our cake and eat it. We can't oppose militarisation in europe and simultaneously call for europe to be free of yankie influence.
It's either a demilitarised europe that is subservient to america under military "protection"(racket), or it's a europe with its own real military powers.
This is the only path to a sovereign EU that doesn't ignore when the US coups Ukraine and even blows up their pipelines to shatter the relationship they were previously building with Russia. The EU was previously forging partnerships with Russia and is currently forging partnerships with China because it's just geographically obvious and beneficial to do. The US doesn't want that and will interfere in every single way it can. The only way to prevent it is to be capable of non-reliance on the US.
The EU also desperately needs this because Ukraine is really fucking dangerous and once they're out of war with Russia they become a real threat to Europe.
Any tolerance of Europe breaking free from American vassalage is nothing but a means to one end: the European abandonment of Western hegemony. But that's a quid pro quo that the gardeners of this continent will never accept and so, if that’s not the likely outcome, then it's a dangerous, useless path for the Global South to entertain and all means should be expended to instead have "sovereign" Europe's baby teeth kicked in while it's still in the crib.
The constituent members of the EU want to preserve their near full national autonomy while still banding together under a united front whenever convenient. This half-assing makes the current state of the EU an emperor without clothes—a strong federative "state" in appearance, but not in any practical substance. The bridges it’s torched in its chauvinistic allegiance to Western hegemony leave little incentive for the rest of the world to humor it, much less ignore exploiting its contradictions by pretending it's actually clothed. The only response they should have is to break and tear this continent apart so that the EU liberal's dream of some "United States of Europe" can never come to pass. Russia and China seem to have gotten the message nowadays by using a diplomatic divide-and-conquer strategy through bilateral relationships while giving Brussels' multilateral fantasies the cold shoulder. The EU wants to have its cake and eat it too but there's no reason for the world to let it.
The sort of freaks running this continent wouldn’t lead to some partnership with anti-imperialism against America but a coordinated sharing of America’s world policeman role with delineated global boundaries of responsibilities akin to the Treaty of Tordesillas. An “independent” Europe would take care of northern Africa, Russia, perhaps also Central Asia and the Middle East while America can, at last, properly focus all its efforts in its decade-long delayed “Pivot to Asia” and fully concentrate on the much fantasized showdown with China.
Europe re-empowered alongside America would simply just replay the dynamic between the British and French Empires in the mid-19th century. As Victor Hugo depicted that partnership - "One of the two victors filled his pockets; when the other saw this he filled his coffers. And back they came to Europe, arm in arm, laughing away. Such is the story of the two bandits" - so would be the exact dynamic of the modern two bandits of America and "sovereign" Europe.
The sort of freaks running this continent wouldn't lead to some partnership with anti-imperialism against America but a coordinated sharing of America's world policeman role with delineated global boundaries of responsibilities akin to the Treaty of Tordesillas. An "independent" Europe would take care of northern Africa, Russia, perhaps also Central Asia and the Middle East while America can, at last, properly focus all its efforts in its decade-long delayed "Pivot to Asia" and fully concentrate on the much fantasized showdown with China.
There is no "pivot to asia" for the EU. They actively do not want to participate in fighting China with the US. They see China as their ticket away from vassalisation by the US.
I strongly disagree with this analysis. You're looking at the EU and US as permanent partners arm in arm when I believe the correct analysis here is that they are more likely to do a capitalist equivalent of the sino-soviet split.
EU will (already is) cozying up to China to escape US vassalisation. They will deepen those ties rather than participate in attacking China.
By the time Europe is in any position to do anything about China 30 years will have passed and the entire continent will be developed by belt and road initiatives and high speed rail tying together Russia, China, the Middle East and Africa into one cohesive land-based trade sector that is tied to China in a way that can never be removed.
All that needs to occur in the meantime is for EU to split with the US and want to build itself up to get out of vassalisation. That project will take so many decades of playing nicely with China that it will hand over the future of the entire landmass to it.
I think this is a far sunnier depiction of Europe than the material reality and historical record allows to be tenably held. It's worth going back to interrogate the sheer history of the notion. The idea of a scenario of inter-imperialist rivalry within the West posed by a resurgent Europe against America, to the benefit of the Global South, traces back all the way back to the immediate post-war period. Stalin himself speculated that:
The question is, what guarantee is there that Germany and Japan will not again rise to their feet, that they will not try to wrest themselves from American bondage and to live their own independent lives? I think there are no such guarantees. But it follows from this that the inevitability of wars among the capitalist countries remains.
Stalin was wrong because World War II turned out to remain the last inter-imperialist war within the West up to today.
Europe's fundamental problem is that it has never been held accountable for the original sin of 500 years of colonialism and imperialism. Rather than facing any retribution, it has been rewarded. The continent has managed to retain the material wealth gained through its imperial past, and even now, it continues to benefit from neo-colonial economic structures that give subsidy to its luxury through the continued unequal exchange with the rest of the world.
On the other hand, the only thing it really ever has been punished for is the cautionary lesson of inter-imperialist infighting when Europe turned its guns against itself. The lesson Europe took from the 20th century, and continues to hold today, is this: karma hasn't ever punished its external violence, but it strikes if it turns on itself. Europe was the victor of history—until the victors began fighting among themselves.
This is the etiological source of its cultural and racial alignment with Western hegemony. It's a self-perpetuating cyclical logic that was only broken through the alternative presented through socialist internationalism that provided a different narrative of Europe that allowed coexistence and solidarity with the rest of the world beyond the now increasingly bankrupt paper facade of liberal "internationalism." Socialist internationalism (though itself insincere at times) offered Europeans, the first time, a way to reimagine our identity beyond the deeply entrenched cultural and racial divide of "the West and the rest," a paradigm that had shaped the idea of "Europe" for centuries, if not millennia.
Incidentally, as a result, this is a contributing factor to why the entirety of all Eastern European states, as if eager to make up for lost time now that they're in the club, have become uniformly some of the most ideologically extreme and right-wing chauvinistic freaks within Western hegemony today.
Lenin’s prediction of inter-imperialist infighting only came to pass once, during WWII, and hasn’t happened again since. Europe does learn lessons but the wrong ones. Stalin’s succession to Khrushchev meant the USSR never updated Lenin and Stalin’s analysis, which led to the policy of "peaceful coexistence." This approach utterly failed to account for the solidarity among imperialist powers under Western hegemony, which ultimately contributed to the Soviet Union’s collapse.
The plain reality from the history of post-war inter-imperialist solidarity, for which the USSR already paid the price, should indicate that unless the original sin of our continent is addressed in one way or another, Europe will never be a protagonist of any scenario of multipolarity against the existing hegemonic paradigm. If it had the chance, Europe would happily loot China alongside the US just as it did in the Opium Wars and the Boxer Uprising. It doesn't do so today not because of a lack of any will, but a lack of capacity and capability. Unless it discovers a new narrative of its identity, as it did once through socialist internationalism, the rest of the world should prevent it from ever regaining that capability - and should reject as realistic any notion of an "independent Europe" willing to repudiate Western hegemony.
Yeah I agree with take, it's kind of like siding with Satan rather than the Greater Satan. Obviously Europe is the OG home of colonialism, imperialism, and capitalism, and the various European nations benefit from this global horror we've constructed called the capitalist world system and the EU is a neoliberal project and causes misery across the globe, AND they caused the most destructive war in the history of the species but it's STILL better to have them rearm if they can break free of the Greater Satan, the United States. It's a necessary step in the continuing trend of multi-polarity. It only benefits China and weirdly even Russia, as if the EU can manage to break free of American influence down the road they'll make up with Russia again, as the capitalists there desperately need Russian energy.
Capitalist version of the sino-soviet split where EU looks to China to build itself up fearing the US.
Just in time for the second burning of the Reichstag by the AFD
Surprised we don't have an emoji tbh
I'm not afraid of germans to be honest, I feel like I could take at least 20 of them and I'm not even a big guy, well horizontally I am but not vertically
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It's like they never even watched Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Typical German hours
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