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oh they learned something all right, they learned they can get away with it
Wholesome Bush giving a werthers original candy to Michelle Obama while straddling a pile of 500,000 Iraqi skulls.
he had to catch up to the clinton sanctions. republicans couldn't let there be an iraqi skulls gap!
Colin Powell is flashing a fake jar of anthrax in hell. I am Satan's amusement at the spectacle.
I forgot he’s already dead because of :covid:
Divine retribution for downplaying the My Lai massacre. Rest in piss.
There was nothing to learn, 9/11 just gave them permission to show their true colors. It is the same now.
The lesson they should have learned is that they are the baddies and they need to repent and turn to Allah, but instead they learned the exact opposite lesson
official pod of the website apparently just dumped a news brief on this exactly.
https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/news-brief-us-media-washington-rush-head-first-into-911-20
no more half measures walter
9/11? They didn't even learn from World War 2
They have completely rewritten WWII to fit their "Russia bad" worldview.
The real second 9/11 in terms of lasting damage to our culture was russiagate.
Totally agree. Conservatives can be written off and frankly I respect their lack of respect. A reactionary knows exactly who he or she is. The problem with libs is they live in a fantastical bubble of non-reality. They're chameleons in constant contradiction. They have no real political compass. And ultimately they're enablers of fascists as long as they get a warm fuzzy in the feels, and everyone nominally recognizes that there are two sides to every story - or some shit.
Unless their privilege is under threat. In which case they turn into blood thirsty savages.
Many liberals will need a century of humiliation to overcome their chauvinism.
If they learned from history they wouldn't be libs
implying liberals actually care about anything other than feeling morally superior to everyone they meet
Death to America
I was a little kid back then so I wasn’t really exposed to the post 9/11 patriotic war fervor but I imagine this is probably the closest we’ve come to that since. In that if I say anything at work about this I may be fired.
People are getting aspects of war that are usually downplayed being captured in pornographic detail being performed on people shown as relatable. They're horrified because war is brutal and impartial and gross. The fact its being perpetuated on people who've been far more brutal and impartial and gross for far longer isn't really something they can accept. Because life is a movie to them, the bad guys are stopped by the good guys not by other bad guys. The idea that the concept of good guys and bad guys is reductionist and infantile invalidates their entire worldview.
Holy shit. Israel is calling Palestinians every dehumanizing slur. Move Russians to take over Palestinian lands. How do they not see they are supporting a genocide? Oh yeah, otherwise would have to admit they are still committing one on Native Americans.
The Democratic Party criticism of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan was, for many years, that the Republicans were prosecuting it incompetently, so I don't find it very surprising at all
Most liberals online were children or teenagers when 9/11 happened. Islamophobia, jingoism, and racism are normal and made more mainstream to the generation of Millenials and older since that point.
usians are the most propagandized people on earth
It can be terrorism and also not a reason to go start some 20 year war and kill a bunch of innocent people
in circumstances like this, the word "terrorism" is used as a thought-terminating cliche, to depict the enemy as an unreasoning malevolent force with no external motivations, to simplify a complex situation and cultivate vague blanket support for any response against the enemy, no matter how destructive, misguided, or counterproductive.
Maybe, I also think people too often just talk about how complex and nuanced the situation is as a reason that they don’t want to make firmer statements denouncing the actions that have taken place and the ideologies that have inspired those actions.
I hope we can acknowledge both things.
the ideologies that have inspired those actions
Look at Gaza. 50% of the children are fucking suicidal. 90% of the water is contaminated. Most of the people are unemployed. The Israeli government uses openly genocidal and racist rhetoric.
You don't get to skip right to ideology and ignore the material realities that shape people. Hamas didn't arise in a vacuum because someone read the Quran one day and said "oh fuck, god wants the Israelis to die! Had I not read this text, I would otherwise feel no animosity toward the Israelis!"
The only reason the ideology of Hamas is in charge of Gaza, instead of a more secular movement toward liberation, is because Israel funded them to drive a wedge between Gaza and the West Bank. Without that interference, the ideology would be broadly socialist.
What would you do if you're put in Palestine situation?
It’s legal resistance. Israel is the one breaching international law, under the UN charter the Palestinians have the right to resist occupation and colonization with violence
there are no innocent settlers
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