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[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 114 points 1 year ago

Simply select Hakeem Jeffries and get on with it. Easy stuff.

[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

At this point I'm not sure why House republicans wouldn't want Hakeem Jeffries as the Speaker. At least then they could run home to their constituents and pretend to be a united party that's accomplishing nothing just because the Speaker is from the Democratic Party. Their base won't care that they're the majority party and would've had to let it happen. They'll just accept that everything from here on out is "the democrat's fault" as they always do anyways.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Whoever votes Jeffries would get primaried next election.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

If 10 Republicans voted present or were conveniently occupied elsewhere, Jeffries would win.

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They could not vote, but also there are purple districts where "I'm doing what's best for the country" would play better than endless bickering.

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[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Great points! GOP voters don't have a clue anyway.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 113 points 1 year ago

"Fuck you. Help us! But also, fuck you."

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

Somehow it reminds me of Bender.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Lets be honest, Republicans have the "Kill all humans" demo locked up.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

Help us get into position to fuck you some more.

Can you name one time that has happened?

Oh? Every time? It happens every time?

Wait, are you saying it literally happened like two weeks ago? Well shit.

[-] Someguy89@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

How about go fuck yourself. You assholes made your own bed... Time to sleep in it. I've thoroughly enjoyed watching them eat each other.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or we could use this opportunity. We can influence them into not only picking the lesser of evils, but leveraging the position to actually help the people of this country.

Let's get them to actually work with us and do some damn governing for once.

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

That requires that all parties act in good faith, which the GOP has not done for decades.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, this is picking between which cancer you want to die from, not lesser evils. All the candidates the GOP are gonna put forward are somehow gonna be worse than McCarthy. Which is fucking ridiculous.

Vote brain eating amoeba for speaker.

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[-] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

The problem is that Republicans literally run "on the government is useless". They don't want to govern. They want power. They want to finish turning the government into an extension of our corporate overlords and cut any and all benefits, except corporate handouts.

This is what they want, but it's a bad look since their voters might see exactly what they stand for. All they've done is hold meetings where they talk but nothing gets done. They're using their committees to run interference for trump and poison the well for Biden like they did for decades with Hillary. Then scream deep state is holding us back. Fuck 'em. They have the majority, figure it out.

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[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I upvoted this comment but how would it be possible to hold the Republicans to an agreement? They already didn't respect the agreement with Biden.

[-] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

The problem is they will pretend they never did it anyway. The entire impetus for removing the last guy was he worked with Democrats lol

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I'd want everything in writing before agreeing to anything. Even then, I'd fear that Republicans would go back on their word the second we passed this crisis.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Are there any purple Republicans in the House? Are there any that aren't toe-ing the line and gargling MAGA Balls? Any that just want to do their job and being a moderate Speaker may look good to their moderate district?

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Except not having a speaker is probably going to cause a shutdown which is going to hurt the people working for the government. This isn't going to hurt who you think it hurts.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

But isn't that interesting then. The GOP have a chip to play that does nothing to backfire on them, yet still totally hurts those they are trying to hurt. Interesting move.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 83 points 1 year ago

“They put us in this ditch along with eight traitors,” Rogers said at the Capitol. “We’re still the majority party, we’re willing to work with them, but they gotta tell us what they need.”

You put yourself in the ditch by constantly pandering to the extremists, not standing up to defend norms, and going along with "one person can kill the Speakership". We've been warning you guys for years and suddenly it's our fault?

Rogers said the disarray in the House is endangering US national security

Funny, you don't seem to have that issue with Tuberville blocking all the military nominations because he can't stop thinking about other people's genitals.

Another Republican, David Joyce of Ohio, told reporters he’s contacted Democrats about expanding the authority of acting Speaker Pro Tem Patrick McHenry of North Carolina so that the House can act on legislation. Joyce said he has proposed granting McHenry such powers for a limited period of time — perhaps 30 or 60 days

Nope. You guys got yourselves into this mess, you get to sort your own shit out. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

Steve Womack, a senior Republican appropriator, supports that idea. The “only other option,” he said, is for Democrats to lower the threshold needed to elect a speaker by merely voting present.

Nope. Again, you guys did this to yourselves. Not our circus, not our monkeys.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 18 points 1 year ago

As a North Carolinian, fuck McHenry.

[-] deconstruct@lemm.ee 82 points 1 year ago

Do they want Dems to vote for the pedo-protector or the white supremacist? The problem is that the GOP thinks everyone is as crazy as they are.

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[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago

Sure thing. Here's my proposal. Five or six Republicans vote for Hakeem Jeffries. See? Very helpful!

[-] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That's it. That's the deal.

It's not up to Democrats to break your broken shit.

They chose to legitimize that Orange Grotesque so now they can deal with his smooth-brained little devotees.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 40 points 1 year ago

Not blaming Dems for things that are entirely the GOP's fault would be a start.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

you can't do that! i mean, if you take away blaming things on the dems... there goes their entire platform!

[-] bogo@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago

Demand a shared gavel. The speaker must accept bills to the floor from both party leaders. Then they can pick whoever they want.

[-] bibliotectress@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

That's so easy to go back on. Like the promise to not nominate Supreme Court Justices right before a presidential election. I would be deeply disappointed if any Democrats believed any promises from Republicans.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

"...they gotta tell us what they need.”

How about clean debt ceiling votes. The debate over spending is NOW during the budget negotiations. Why they think they can wait half a year, then hold the entire country hostage again when the spending they voted for puts us over the debt ceiling is just ridiculous.

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

How about 8 of you join in and vote a dem as speaker. No? Didn't think so.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think all of the democrats are voting for a dem speaker.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

I remember months ago when McCarthy gave in to the rule that allowed them to pull this stunt.

At the time it was compared to giving a loaded hand gun to your assassin.

Well, suprise to noone they used the loaded gun...

[-] init@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

It just blows my mind that mainstream Republicans would rather work with extremists than normal Americans.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

If Democrats had a clue about messaging they'd be crowing this exact sentence on every platform in existence.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

The Republicans have proven you can't trust their word.

Fuck em.

[-] Heikki@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Dems should take the deal and then vote for Jeffries. Might aswell take screw the GOP and actually earn the untrustworthy name they get plastered with regularly.

[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Well, the general public wanted the consistent enforcement of the rule of law. We don't always get what we want.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

They should suggest a democrat. As long as they find 8 republicans supporting it - this can work.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 13 points 1 year ago

Even putting aside the recent hyper-divisiveness between the Parties and the country at-large... Voting for the other Party's Speaker nomination is just not done. Like, it hasn't happened for decades.

They currently have control of the house, they need to work together to vote in their Speaker. However, If they want to cooperate in a bipartisan manner, they can vote for the Democrats' nomination: Hakeem Jeffries.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Voting for the other Party’s Speaker nomination is just not done. Like, it hasn’t happened for decades.

Sounds like it's time for a change, then.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 1 year ago

Totally fair. Republicans can't complete this simple procedural step so that the House can actually function; they certainly can't govern!

So Democrats should go above and beyond and do their job for them with no actual positive results to bring back to the People they represent. They should reach far across the middle, to a Party that once again proved days ago it can't keep its word on agreements. And if anything doesn't go perfectly (for Republicans), they'll falsely blame Democrats and score political points off the circus they created, while the country suffers. Like I said, totally good and fair...

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[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Republicans should help Democrats elect Jeffries.

[-] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
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