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[-] Azarova@hexbear.net 23 points 6 hours ago
[-] isame@hexbear.net 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I generally agree with the sentiment. And my concern isn't even if it's adventurism.

But who suffers here? Our friend here does, certainly. All of his coworkers at said warehouse are probably going to have to be shifted to other warehouse or be part of the cleanup crew. The company has insurance. So they suffer some temporary diminished capacity for production, likely at not much actual financial loss. And the workers suffer, on the whole.

Am I missing something?

[-] AF_R@hexbear.net 2 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

Leftists seem to think “insurance” is some kind of magic fairy that just makes all the consequences of this action go away. I’ve seen this in multiple different incidents too, oh don’t worry insurance covers them.

This is a fantasy.

If this warehouse is even owned by KC (this is generally not the case, they are owned by a property management company and rented to the occupant), “insurance” will pay for the building damages, and likely not even close to all of it. Also KC doesn’t run their own warehouses, it’s all 3PL unless something changed in the last few years.

This warehouse was the distribution center of KC products for that entire region. DCs are run lean, empty space is wasted rent.

All of that supply chain capacity needs to go elsewhere now. Trucks coming from the plant need to unload their product somewhere. LTL and truckload carriers need to pick up their orders from somewhere to get it to the customer.

Freight costs are going to go through the roof. Order backlog will balloon. Lead times will explode. Their other warehouses will now be overflowing and plagued with inefficiencies.

Customers are still going to need product. They will go to competitors.

KC needs to open a new warehouse. Replace the institutional knowledge and leaders they lost. Spend time engineering and implementing their WMS, ERP, and processes to fit a new building. This takes time and money.

Ontario is the logistics hub of the entire West coast and Southwest. There’s a reason every warehouse is there. It’s close to the port, has plentiful cheap labor, industrial land is cheap, weather is good (well it hits 115 degrees F in summer but that’s only a problem for the hourlies), and a truck can service the entire region in a relatively short time.

None of this is covered by some benevolent insurance company. This is a significant event for KC, and it’s going to lose them a fucking truckload of money every single day they don’t have a DC running in that area.

[-] millennialstealthcamper@hexbear.net 3 points 49 minutes ago

In case this wasn't clear to anyone else: DC = distribution center (the warehouse that receives, stores, and ships out products to customers in a region)

[-] videogame@hexbear.net 26 points 8 hours ago

Erm acktually you can't lionize this cool-ass guy

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

This person is a Lion.

[-] thefunkycomitatus@hexbear.net 21 points 6 hours ago

Personally I think this guy should be president of the DSA, regardless of whatever we're about to find out about his past.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

He should be president of the USA. I dont know exaxtly where he stands but this shows it has to be a bit of an improvement

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 34 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

No fire suppression system in a paper warehouse? False flag. Or the business did it for the insurance money.


[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 18 points 7 hours ago

Bare minimum to satisfy the law because they have insurance so fuck it

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 39 points 9 hours ago

pretty sure warehouses just do that sometimes.

NOT GUILTY

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 71 points 10 hours ago

The funniest thing about Luigi Mangione is that by suppressing him as much as they did, they made it super easy for people to mythologize and project their own beliefs onto him. I feel like if they just let him talk, he would say some stupid shit that would piss people off within days.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 28 points 9 hours ago

Had an incredibly rich grandfather iirc, and some chuddy beliefs(?) from my memory?

Yeah, he would've definitely made a lot of people angry

[-] dead@hexbear.net 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

In the first sentence of the luigi manifesto, he said that he loves cops.

I think the most obvious motive of the Luigi case is that he was 26 years old. Obamacare requires his parent's health insurance cover him until he turned 26. This means he was likely recently kicked off of his parent's health insurance plan. It has been reported that Luigi suffers from back pain from a spinal injury.

[-] moss_icon@hexbear.net 10 points 4 hours ago

Or he is just being framed by the police who are unable or unwilling to find the real culprit

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 21 points 5 hours ago

of course it says cops are good, the cops wrote it

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 8 hours ago

racist and i wanna say transphobic tweets but that's not a conversation i ever bothered trying to have with radicalizing libs

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Is this not individualistic adventurism? /gen question

[-] DornerStan@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No because it's (probably) not a communist person/party doing it. Adventurism would be a party acting too far ahead of or without support from the masses. This is someone from the masses acting as an individual.

Unideological events like this, and the public reaction to them, can be analyzed by communist parties to gauge the potential of the masses.

If anything, this suggests communist parties in the West are tailing the masses. Which is to be expected given the extreme suppression and complex contradictions enabled by global imperialism.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 23 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It 100% is.

Still cool as fuck though and I look forwards to seeing more and more of it happen. We have no control over it and no ability to stop it. All we can do is recognise that the occurrence of this stuff increasing over time is an indicator of things tilting more and more our way. More and more people will be moved towards individual action as things worsen. It is disorganised revolutionary energy finding its way out.

[-] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Then it should not be cheered for. It just shows the absolute decay of the movement (in the imperial core): that there is no mass workers party to turn that potential into something organised that is relevant on a systemic scale

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Okay, but then was the lack of violence before supposed to show that the movement was robust and organized? Obviously not. The only reason there weren't outbursts before is because the movement was dead; nothing left on the bones to decay.

These are the first signs of life of a movement that has been dead for decades in the imperial core.

[-] bunnossin@hexbear.net 10 points 6 hours ago

There cannot be a mass workers' party if the mass of workers do not want a party, and it's unreasonable to expect such an organization to simply appear and get everyone in line instantly as soon as revolutionary sentiment emerges. This is an unproductive expenditure of energy compared to organized action by a vanguard party, yes, but framing it as a failing of the movement as a whole is unhelpful. This isn't a sign of the "absolute decay of the movement", it's a sign that people are beginning to recognize that the change they want will not be achieved under the current system.

[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 15 points 7 hours ago

You can't cultivate mass without burning through some TP mac-concern

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 21 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I disagree. The movement itself causes this to happen. It is the success of the movement that causes these leaks of excess to occur. It is impossible for the movement to harness and organise everything, everywhere. The movement is creating the revolutionary energy with the spread of education and class consciousness while simultaneously organising it, but some of it spreads faster than it can be organised and you get this.

I am completely neutral to it. I would rather these people were found and organised before this happened, but I see it as a good indicator that things are trending in the direction we want them to trend. If the revolution is a coming thunderstorm then these are small rains as the weather slowly worsens.

[-] Blakey@hexbear.net 28 points 9 hours ago

It's impressive that the people doing this are all so attractive, smart, likeable, and cool.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 65 points 11 hours ago

Me and my buddy Chamel were discussing Wittgenstein over a rousing game of backgammon that night

[-] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 36 points 10 hours ago

We were sitting in Barney's car eating a packet of mustard

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 34 points 10 hours ago

I still remember introducing my current partner to the joy of eating pretzels with mustard by taking a bunch of mustard packets from the gas station and putting them on one of those big soft pretzels they sell sometimes

Saved us the five bucks that day

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 23 points 10 hours ago

"He was reeking of beer and pretzeled bread!"

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 15 points 9 hours ago

his account was hacked that was just ai your honor we were doing whippets

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 13 points 9 hours ago

Did i say whippets? No, I meant to say we were participating in mutual whipping

Yep, a little light S&M between the boys

[-] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 9 hours ago
[-] Llituro@hexbear.net 47 points 11 hours ago

paper mario if you will

[-] oliveoil@hexbear.net 45 points 11 hours ago
[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 32 points 11 hours ago

I genuinely thought this happened in Canada until right now lmfao

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 41 points 11 hours ago

nah he didn't do it

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago

Think he’ll cause a struggle session like Luigi did?

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 11 points 8 hours ago

do we know anything about the guy besides being accused of this arson?

[-] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 hours ago

How high does he have to roll to pass the charisma check tho?

[-] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 20 points 11 hours ago

Will he be locked for life?

[-] take_five_moments@hexbear.net 24 points 11 hours ago

arson charges like that in california don't look great

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 30 points 11 hours ago

maybe PSL will win the gubernatorial race and pardon him

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