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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A fake emergency call to police resulted in officers responding Friday night to the home of Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows just a day after she removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s presidential primary ballot under the Constitution’s insurrection clause.

She becomes the latest elected politician to become a target of swatting, which involves making a prank phone call to emergency services with the intent that a large first responder presence, including SWAT teams, will show up at a residence.

Bellows was not home when the swatting call was made, and responding officers found nothing suspicious.

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 85 points 10 months ago

Question: what isn’t swatting a punishable act for the person who called?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago

Sure, but these folks are masking themselves with spoofed numbers, VPNs, etc.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago

Then so for an identification or lower the response force. It feels like they just get a random phone call, no proof of anything and they just barge in within 10min. But when my neighbor plays loud music all night no one cares.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 10 months ago

When you call the police on your loud neighbor do you say, "their music is too loud" or do you say, "a bunch of suspicious looking people have been going in and out carrying bags of fertilizer and electronic components."

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Not sure where she lives other than Maine, might be a small wealthy town with a bored police department.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Why would a swat team be sent for your neighbor's loud music?

Why does your comment have almost 50 upvotes?

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I have no idea why so many people upvote this stupid comment.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, that's what I'm asking.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You really want to try and work out such a system? Tell me how your algorithm is going to work and I'll start throwing exceptions.

Lives are on the line! You better have quite the bulletproof plan.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Since when do cops give a single shit about people's lives?

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

They have obligation to pretend they do.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

All you need is a VPN and a VOIP number. It's not hard to do and you can order them easily online. Let alone text to voice readers.

There's a reason why swatting and bomb threats have been popular for a decade now.

Privacy is a two way street. When it comes to serious threats, the same things that protect you, protect people who would abuse those tools.

[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

That’s my point. It should not be that easy.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well unless you want FBI back doors built into every VPN in every sovereign nation, then it's unfortunately a byproduct of our need for privacy due to corporate and governmental overreach.

The FBI and other three letter agencies already pay huge bucks for hats when they can. Common encryption aren't going to be broken for at least a couple decades. We almost always encrypt better than decrypt though by the very nature of the process though.

Quantum computing is moving faster than most people realize but it will never beat out better encryption.

[-] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Or maybe calls from voip are identified before sending out a swat team

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Problem is there's a ton of legitimate VoIP. My brother had a VoIP home phone for years because it costs next to nothing. Police can't just not go to a call because it's a VoIP call.

[-] Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

I’m saying show a little more caution. (I know lol)

[-] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

They can spoof the phone number so it's a phone number associated the address.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

Well, since conservatives are cowards- it’s virtually impossible to catch them because they’ve perfected hiding and/or blaming others for their crimes.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

It is. The problems arise when it's an anonymous phone call. The police are still going to show up to a potential hostage situation if the caller spoofs a number.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Arguably, the cops knew the address they were going to was a Secretary of State, but they went there anyway.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Didn't read the article, huh? FAFO with 911, you'll see if it's punishable or not.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 69 points 10 months ago

More stochastic terrorism. Used to be the political party involved would be tripping over themselves to disavow such actions. Now? 🦗🦗🦗...

[-] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago

Bunch of fucking children, these trumpets.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 26 points 10 months ago

Not children, terrorists.

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

*snowflakes

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

He's the asshole's candidate. We don't need to politely pretend otherwise.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 39 points 10 months ago

I believe they meant to say fraudulent phone call and not prank phone call.

[-] pl_woah@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago

I'm inclined to believe the local PD knows the addresses of officials.. So they let this happen on purpose.

[-] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I doubt it. Not a good look for them.

My guess would be that they took it more seriously since letting something happen to an elected official would be a PR nightmare for them. That, or they knew it could be a hoax but proceeded out of an abundance of caution.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, they probably do have those addresses. Given this woman has received innumerable threats against her life, and the police called her since she was not at home, and she is the one that asked the police to check inside the home, which they then did, what exactly would you suggest happen? That the police ignore a call that indicated violence occurring at the home of a public official that has credible violent threats leveled against her?

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

They can't just ignore emergency calls because they think it might be a prank.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Well, those people have no arguments, so they have to use SWATing instead.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Five bucks says it is someone who has already gotten some infamy for doing things like this in the past like Jacob Wohl.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You’re on. I say it’s Trump. Or possibly ~~Byron~~ Barron. (edit...lol. we should all just start "who are you again? Duncan?" to trump. probably set his ego off even more than tiny-hands jokes)

[-] spamfajitas@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Probably some punk named John Barron who I hear many people say has the yugest hands and smells amazing.

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