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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Zuzak@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

That's it. Our instance requires us to stop responding if you explicitly ask us to. It's right here buried in our Code of Conduct

Any discussions may be opted out of by disengaging.

In the past, this rule has only applied to the specific user you say it to. I'd like to suggest going forward that if someone on another instance uses it, we treat it as applying to all of us.

Unfortunately this rule wasn't communicated clearly before, so I'm making this post for visibility.

Edit: As the comments clarify, this has to be done in good faith, typically just a one word "disengage" comment. If you add more stuff to the discussion and then say "disengage" at the end, you're not disengaging, it's a way to put a stop to a toxic argument not to get the last word in.

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[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

“Hey tankie, DISENGAGE”

smuglord

ooooooooooooooh

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Libs when they find out that they also have to stop talking: agony-shivering

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[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

imo i feel like the disengage rule should really only apply amongst comrades. it will just be used to silence us otherwise and the libs have plenty of ways to do that without us handing them another

plus giving the libs a magic debate-winning word seems like it validates their worldview a bit too much, idk

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

You're acting like libs will actually read the rules before engaging though.

And the debate pervert types would never use a "stop talking to me now" option. They live off of the attention they get for being obnoxious.

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[-] iie@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah. it makes sense to prioritize peace and unity among comrades, but between comrades and liberals maybe we should prioritize getting the message out.

maybe it works as long as “disengage” is a single word comment

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[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago
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[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago
[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Russian bots: walter-breakdown

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You do have to actually disengage though, to be clear. No "I disengage, but also [fuck you, x,y,z, trying to get the last word]". If you're disengaging, it has to be mutually respected.

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[-] macabrett@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Wait a second I know how to stop you

Disengage, Mike

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Type "disengage" and then just posting a continuation of the rant on a different person's post entirely as a bit.

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[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is dumb. There's basically no scenario where this would be used in good faith.

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[-] abc@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Stop screaming “disengage” at me, I don’t know what that word means and I will never stop posting

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

You seem to be the only person who cares about this, Zuzak. This is a rule that to my knowledge has never been mentioned or enforced. I didn't even know we had rules until last week and I've been here the whole three years. Pulling this out as a "gotcha" that everyone has to abide by because it's in a document no one knew existed, that is never or nearly never referenced, and that in no way guides or informs site culture is not helpful or productive.

If anything, we should be discussing revising the site rules to reflect current practice, now that some people know they exist.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

comments get removed & people have been banned for pursuing an argument after one user has 'disengaged'. you've really never seen this? it is in the rules, and i think there was even a clarification at a later date regarding people who'd say 'disengage' but continue the argument for the last word.

i guess it's fortunate you've never been in a shit-flinging hostile enough it's been needed but this is by no means a new rule or one that's gone unused/appreciated

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[-] Zuzak@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

It's the rule, and it always has been if you want it to changed, talk to the mods, I don't have the power to change it even if I wanted to (I don't).

is not helpful or productive.

I saw a blahaj user post a link to this in defense of staying federated in their thread, so I beg to differ.

Not to mention, you just said you hadn't heard of it, now you have. Sounds like the post was necessary then.

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

You seem to be the only person who cares about this, Zuzak.

I've used that rule in the past and it worked. There's points where discussion becomes a toxic and pointless contest of oneupmanship and i think a large part of hexbear culture is that we offer an alternative to that particular way places like reddit handle debates.

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

This isn't used explicitly a ton, but I remember at the start of hexbear, then chapochat, that an important idea was you should not continually harass someone into an argument. Like purposefully trying to pull someone into an argument for the sake of being an ass was frowned on and you should not continually harass them. The ability to say "aight i'm done, this is bad for both of us" via the disengage is pretty valuable and we should honestly bring light to it more.

I think mods removing comments from people who are only trying to be hostile isn't a bad idea. We remove bad faith chud/lib comments. We should strive to act in good faith, even if we're incredibly annoying.

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[-] McCainRBGcreampie@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

I DO NOT WISH TO CREATE JOINDER WITH YOU

[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

inhales 1984 CHINA BAD VUVUZELA NO IPHONE

Disengage

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Thats why i play rogue and can disengage as a bonus action

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[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Heh... looks like we have a CCP bot on our hands. But oh, I have just the thing to make it malfunction:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

Now, I'm going to kindly ask the authoritarian regime defenders to... disengage 😏

[-] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago
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[-] temptest@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

[pig incoming]

I DO NOT CONSENT!

lolberts confirmed liberalism

[-] StewartCopelandsDad@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

You know, now that we have a block button I don't see the need for "disengage" anymore.

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[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Liberals after posting disengage:

smuglord checkmate tankies

Nazis after posting disengage:

wall-talk

guys it says in your own rules that you have to disengage, and you keep on posting the fucking picture of the pig with the

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[-] FuckYourselfEndless@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I'm a 3rd gen Hexbear and we've evolved to not have this trait.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

This came up as an alternative to blocking when we lacked a block feature. Since everybody has a block feature now, it probably just makes sense to use that, though there are cases where it is preferable to just tell someone to drop it instead of blocking them. Anyway, it is still the rule.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

tbh if you blocked everyone that was ever annoying on hexbear this site would be a ghost town lmao

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[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

This won't work in startrek.website folks. They're all about engage.

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

freeze you dirty tankie scum

i invoke my right to select Run Away and forfeit any gold and XP

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