submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Custoslibera@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

No I’m not catastrophising.

The world is slowly lurching towards a fully fascist led America, India, Hungary, Russia, Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Argentina.

Instead people are either ignorant or blaming “wokeism”* for their problems.

I have no clue what to do and this is literally a car crash in slow motion.

I’m despondent because I’m going to be crushed under the boot when the time comes and my morals get in the way of my survival instinct.

Humans are repeating the mistakes of the past. It’s just so anxiety inducing.

*Woke is a useless term promulgated by fascists to dog whistle the things they really want to hate - feminism, socialism, LGBTQIA+, immigration, brown/black people, equality and diversity.

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[-] Thief_of_Crows@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I don't know the politics of most of those places, but Russia and America definitely are not fascist. Oligarchy is not the same as fascism, though they are certainly good friends. America is no more fascist today than it was when our capitalists were helping out the Nazis. The government is not fascist, only our capitalists are pseudo fascist. The same is true in Russia.

[-] Dackel@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Ok maybe Austria will get these fascist assholes in power. Thats bad because Austria is like a playground in politics if it could happen in Austria it could happen in Germany too and then everywhere else.

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago

I hate to say this but I've honestly just gotten used to the idea at this point. I've been watching the people around me howling in support of fascism since about 2015 now and the more egregious these politicians crimes become the louder these idiots seem to howl for them. It's been going so long that it's just part of the background noise of day to day life now, and I'm tired of caring anymore. It's fucking depressing.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How can we convince people now is the time to act? What more information do we need? I think most people are clinging to the idea everything is business as usual. As long as they can keep the lights on they wouldn't want to upset the stability they've managed to make for themselves.

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[-] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago

I understand how you might feel this way. But a key difference to the early 1930s is that there are many large-scale protests against far right extremism in Germany. The elections in the Netherlands did produce a right wing tendency, but there is no government as of yet and the PVV is still pretty far away from fascism. The other three large winners of the election are not even that right wing. At least no more than the party that ruled for the last 15 years.

That said, I do kinda hope that this phase passes quickly and that people will start to finally get along and care about our fellow humans. Even though we never have.

[-] Micromot@feddit.de 59 points 1 week ago

The protests in germany give me hope that the german public finally resists against fascism instead of just letting it happen and then saying "there's nothing that could have been done" afterwards

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[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 73 points 1 week ago

Well, at least that will take your mind off global warming. Which is good since we have already hit 1.5°C of warming.

[-] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

1.5 and we're just getting started! Let's goooooo! It's incredible what humans can do when we work together 🔥👏🏻🔥👏🏻🔥

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[-] Pippin@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago

I'm only 18 and I'm already so fucking tired of existing in this world, seems like everything is going downhill and I'm just gonna be forced to live in an authoritarian dictatorship world where all the air is full of toxins and the water is full of plastic

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I hate thinking so negatively about the future but the more the world seems to crumble around me the more I feel like we might be one of the last generations of humans that got to experience civilisation for a long time.

The planet is dying, fascism is spreading, the tensions are rising, and everyone has nukes! woo! future!

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[-] tazy@lemmy.tazy.xyz 56 points 1 week ago

Woke is a hijacked term by the facists it literally means to be socially aware of the problems faced by different people in a society

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago

It worries me too and I've been thinking a lot about margaritas, I've been sober for four years so its troubling thoughts of alcohol are creeping back in. I don't know what else to say. Need a hug?

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago

Need a hug?

Wish I could give one

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[-] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

Anything I have learned from history classes is that this cycle of fascism/dictatorship and democracy has always been going on, people are dumb -> they choose fascists -> fascist gonna fasc -> ppl get fed up -> uprising/protests -> government overthrown after tons of bloodshed -> some sort of constitutional bind on rulers/elections -> some peace -> dumb ppl forget everything and chose fascists again -> repeat

[-] noobnarski@feddit.de 33 points 1 week ago

I think you forgot the part where capitalism makes peoples life worse and worse, while at the same time conservative media blames the left for it, even if they are the cause.

Because in the End people dont vote for fascists because its funny, but because they believe they can get them out of a shitty situation (Fascism doesnt do that obviously, but people get blinded by propaganda).

We wouldnt have this issue today if politicians werent all neoliberal and actually cared about poor people.

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[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 50 points 1 week ago

I have hope for Germany. The past few weeks we had enormous protests(over 3m people protested in total) and multiple petitions against fascists and the AfD(the party that literally want to deportate everyone who isn't "German"(this means even if you have a German passport, but came from another country youre going to get deportated)) had blown up. Their youth organisation is now officially a right wing extremists organisation. I still have hope, that we may save our country before it's to late.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago

Just to give you a bit of a morale boost: every generation thinks they're the last ans that everything is about to go to shit. In the end that never really happens.

Yes, a lot of right wing politicians have beek elected, also all previous ones have failed and got kicked out. For the Netherlands I predict the government will fall within a year as it typically tends to do when the leaders fuck up and this guy will likely fuck up soon enough.

Basically, this too shall pass.

Climate change is indeed a big cloud mainly because it will take centuries to fix even if we're going to fully dedicate ourselves to fixing it, which right now we are not. On the other end I finally hear about actual progress with fusion which, if true, may be the key to solving climate change within a century, solving it to acceptable levels within decades, if the will is there.

Point is: things look bleak, but they always do. Back during the cold war it literally was same shit, different day. Yet, the world moved forward and things slowly improved.

Things will be fine, you will be fine.

[-] IndefiniteBen@leminal.space 35 points 1 week ago

Your take on climate change makes me more worried. Sure, I will probably be fine, but how many innocent people around the world will die until we've done enough to see the climate improving?

How horrible is the world going to be to inhabit if the Gulf Stream collapses? Or other major climate disruptions occur?

I don't doubt the human race will survive, but why do we have to experience the pain before committing to fixing the problem?

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[-] lethargic_lemming@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Thanks, I guess part of being an adult is just being more and more indifferent to the gradual decline of the world so that the crippling dread does not consume you.

Explains why my parents are still asking for grandkids.

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[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Things often get a whole lot worse before they get better. People thought things were on the brink of turning to shit in the 1930s, and then we had a world war for 6 years. Tens of millions of people died, countless more were displaced, cities were leveled, and history was lost.

I admire your optimism, but I can't ignore that the world and even my country specifically look more and more like a powder keg with every passing day. I'm terrified that we can't get to "fine" again without first suffering through an extremely dangerous period of time, and there's no guarantee that any of us will be "fine" during that time.

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[-] fluidrock78@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago

I suggest target practice, that way you won't get crushed by boots....and you can resist any fascist in your area, and encourage others in your immediate area to do the same.

Start a club, and then you can hold parties, where you show each other new knowledge, and help others to protect themselves....and fight against all the fascist hordes!

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

This isn't Red Dawn. People will quickly find out how inadequate they are against a military.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

When real conflict begins domestically it will be drones being used by those in power. Guns won't do much good.

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[-] Attack0fthenerd@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

John Brown gun club or Socialist Rifle Association are out there... also there are plenty of paramilitary and social fascist groups to protect yourself against. Proud boys, border nutjobs, don't listen to naysayers about learning to defend yourself. It's not just military with tanks and planes. It's your back the blue neighbor you have to worry about...

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 38 points 1 week ago

We'll see how it shakes out this year, but here are some positive thoughts...

2017 was the high watermark for facism's popularity in the US. They couldn't help themselves and went masks off in Charlottesville, and their movement has never recovered.

Facism's rise is always reactionary to rising socialism. If the rural petite bougausie and the New York Times are pushing for facism then that's because they are worried workers are gaining power and will come to take what they have. They're worried we are getting organized and winning victories.

Conservatives are currently extremely demoralized. Go check out their boards and discords. I've never seen them this universally depressed. Then don't think they can win and they aren't excited at the prospect of trying only to fail.

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[-] juergen@feddit.de 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

May i present to you:

the antifacist handbook, free to download/read (in different formats like pdf/epub/html/plaintext):


The Andifacist handbook

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Thanks for this, reading now.

I’ve also been busy reading the history of the rise of the Nazi party particularly the SA.

It’s scary (scary is not a strong enough word for the combined emotions of frustration, anger, fear, anxiety) how close current USA events are replicating the original rise of Nazi Germany.

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[-] Random_German_Name@feddit.de 35 points 1 week ago

Organize. The old world is dying, the new world is yet to be born. We are standing at a tipping point not only regarding climate change, but also regarding the future of humanity. It is up to us, how we act and how the new world will look like.

And even if we loose: Its harder to deport and/or kill you, if a bunch of other people got your back.

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[-] FuzzChef@feddit.de 34 points 1 week ago

No I'm not catastrophising.

2024 is going to be the beginning of the end of us all

Yeah, I don't know about that.

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[-] Dackel@programming.dev 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe we can still win against these fascist assholes

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[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 28 points 1 week ago

I think it sucks when you are forced to save the environment but the rich don't have to change their lifestyle at all. They should be the first to have to change since they affect the environment a lot more.

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I don't even have the energy to keep resisting the endless flow of bullshit anymore. It gets worse from day to day. What bothers me the most is that it's gotten so bad that i turned apathetic to it. If someone starts spewing right wing bullshit i just zone out until they finished. In the end I won't be directly affected by a right wing leadership in my country but i still can't stand the idea. All the progress we have made in the last few years in terms of equality would just go to waste

[-] Gilles_D@feddit.de 19 points 1 week ago

I won’t be directly affected by a right wing leadership

Well, you know that famous quote where in the end there’s no one to fight for you when they come for you?

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[-] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago

We're been living in an oligarchy since the mid 1970s, we've had a surveillance state since 2001 and the US government has been allowed to indefinitely detain people since whatever the year was when Obama signed the NDAA into law.

Our democracy was stolen long ago.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The UK won't be far behind. Our left leaning party is likely to get in at the next election, but the overton window has shifted faaaar in the past 10-15 years and today's labour may just be yesterday's Tories. Who's to say what tomorrow's Tories will be...

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[-] archonet@lemy.lol 23 points 1 week ago

Remember, the second amendment is for everybody, not just MAGA chuds. :)

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago

This isn't even a car crash brother it's like watching 8 separate trains collide

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