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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by dgerard@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

"Walt Bismarck," a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section "Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup".

It turns out they don't like him, they don't like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don't take to him. The frauleins prefer "stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains" over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

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[-] mii@awful.systems 102 points 7 months ago

This was worse than I imagined from the quotes. I feel like I need to take a shower, now.

[...] which would severely limit the Federal Reserve’s ability to control the economy while exporting inflation abroad, and likely bring our material standard of living down to a German or Dutch level

According to this Quality of Life index which I just searched up and have not critically assessed, but I doubt the guy did that either for his claims, so I guess it's fine, the Netherlands rank second and Germany ranks 12th, while the US is on the 15th place. In other words: what is he even talking about?

Every day in this country more and more Hispanics marry corn-fed blonde midwesterners and produce pale Castizo children who only speak English, consider themselves basically White, and vote like Irish and Italians.

Jesus fucking Christ, I can't even come up with a funny sneer here because this reads like he just pulled it out of the 1940s Nazi Party's bag of race laws for who's allowed to marry whom, and it's making me feel icky.

I also subscribe to the old fascist idea that adversity gives life meaning. A comfortable and easy life without struggle or conflict is miserable, and just makes you a slave to the hedonic treadmill. When you live for pleasure, no pleasure is ever enough, and continued success will just leave you so pampered that any task that’s challenging or outside your comfort zone will begin to feel onerous.

Ignoring the low-hanging fruit that this guy just flat-out said "well, fascism wasn't all bad", what kind of toxic consumer mentality is ingrained in these chucklefucks that they are seemingly unable so sit their sorry asses down on the couch and just say, yeah, I'm happy right now, to the point where they just postulate that other people must feel the same way, because they just can't imagine anyone being different?

Like, seriously, get a hobby or something.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 58 points 7 months ago

always love* it when these guys get so race scientist they start on different groups of white people

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

This is also what it means when the antiracists say race is a social construct.

You can't actually define any of these races rigorously in the first place. It's a subjective assessment. The racists define race backwards from tribe in order to categorize the people they hate as physically different to justify their hate

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[-] cstross@wandering.shop 34 points 7 months ago

@dgerard Whiteness is a movable feast. (Ask anyone who's Jewish, or LGBT+, or Italian/Irish in the USA in the 19th century or Hispanic in the USA before/after the 1970s).

[-] JohnBierce@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago

Ayuuuuuuuup. Movable feast is a great term for it. Even once formerly ostracized groups get permitted into the in-group, their membership is strictly conditional on serving the interests of those closer into the center of the Whiteness construct. Stop being useful, watch how fast the old hate rears its ugly head again.

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[-] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 35 points 7 months ago

Dude, showering is exactly what I feel like now. I clicked the post to be nice and read, but only got a couple paragraphs before I just skimmed and picked out the "JFC" bits.

Then the first comment on the blog mentions how sad it is that you lose your "genetic whiteness" in 9 generations and just..goddamn...why is this an issue? Genetic purity is a fucking impossibility due to sheer randomness, let alone the implications of "keeping it white."

I try to be empathetic where possible, but fuck these people and their entire worldview.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 months ago

Genetic purity is a fucking impossibility due to sheer randomness, let alone the implications of "keeping it white."

you assume that he has basic knowledge of biology

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[-] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

At least he's old school racist enough to be racist towards Irish and Italians.

Most people have forgotten, or were never educated on, how oppressed those groups used to be.

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[-] 200fifty@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Like, seriously, get a hobby or something.

For real. I don't even necessarily disagree with the broad-strokes idea of "if you're comfortable, it's good to take on challenges and get outside of your comfort zone because that's how you grow as a person," but why can't he just apply this energy to writing a terrible novel or learning to paint watercolors or something, like a normal person? Why does the fact his life is comfortable mean he has to become a Nazi? :/

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[-] Katrisia@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago

In a nutshell, he ended up hating many Germans, white and almost white Hispanics, Irish, Italians, who else...? Pickiest white supremacist I've read in a while.

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[-] Sekrayray@lemmy.world 73 points 7 months ago

“I moved to a place to be surrounded by white people, and decided I didn’t like white people because those white people weren’t hostile enough nor did they have enough of a desire to conquer other people. This made me realize white people are weak, so now I’m disappointed in them. But actually it’s because the white people in that area came from inferior nations 🤡.”

That’s the premise of the article to save you from having to read absolute horse shit. That guy is a waste of atoms.

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[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 58 points 7 months ago

I made it embarrassingly far into this article, but it was "five figure wagecuck hell" that for some reason made me stop and think, why am I still reading this garbage?

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 33 points 7 months ago

Welcome to the abyss! Here's your hazmat suit with a leak! It sucks here!

[-] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 24 points 7 months ago

Identical experience. Goddamnit kid just get drunk and write a bad poem

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[-] slopjockey@awful.systems 58 points 7 months ago

At first I wondered why a post about a man disavowing white supremacy wasn't NSFW; but it's because he didn't get any better? He's not a white supremacist because white supremacy is too inclusive and not racist enough against the shittier whites? He concluded that an ENTIRE GEOGRAPHICAL REGION was genetic backwash before he considered self-reflection?

It is completely insane what the substack/X combo is doing to young men. It's like CTE but concentrated entirely on the part of your brain that lets you tolerate other races.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Well yeah, because he’s the sort of person who becomes a white supremacist. They’re not smart people, they’re miserable people looking for something to blame for their own failures. So yeah of course he decided to blame midwesterners for being the catholic Germans instead of the Protestant Germans

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[-] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 56 points 7 months ago

TL;DR: "I'm no longer a white nationalist because a lot of white people are cucked. Now my new identity is with sufficiently pilled white people. This is much more pragmatic. Also I would totally have a cool black friend if any actually existed which means I'm totally not racist."

Also: did anyone else feel a chill reading about a literal nazi talking about how society accepts him now? America used to despise nazis and now they feel like they can walk around openly. It's terrifying.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago

I reacted to that too, "no need to be an overt WN now that society accepts us!" but I think that's partly bravado.

For example, he loves Twitter now but Elon still hasn't given his account back...

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[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 49 points 7 months ago

This reminds me of a report from the Nazi ambassador to Iceland sometime in the late 1930s. He was posted there, expecting to find a model Aryan utopia, as could only be inevitable from a population of pure Nordic blood, but was bitterly disappointed to find a provincial backwater whose people were happy to stay put and get on with their lives. The schadenfreude was palpable.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 24 points 7 months ago

I just read an account of the Nazi occupation of Norway in WW2 and it was a bit like that. The local Nazis (the OG Quisling!) were widely hated, there was passive resistance at every turn, and very few Norwegians were interested in some sort of "racial bond" with Germany.

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[-] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

More recently there was a family from Canada who moved to Russia because Canada was too "woke" only to find that Russia wasn't the woke free paradise they expected.

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 25 points 7 months ago

According to Wonkette, they're now in danger of deportation because they don't know any Russian, and don't seem interested in learning it

https://www.wonkette.com/p/canadian-idiots-who-fled-to-russia

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 37 points 7 months ago

Low testosterone German Catholics

hahahaha

These idiots will never get the message that scientific racism is dog shit. They can't stop obsessing over weird irrelevant shit

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 53 points 7 months ago

Catholics, well known for their low fertility

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[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Is it my original ideas that are wrong? No I have just discovered a new degenerate race of humans.

Edit: A glorious sneer from twitter

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[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago

The way he talks sounds like he's still a white nationalist.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Lol he needs to get the fuck out of here

Sincerely, A far left Midwestern queer lady who grew up German Catholic

[-] TomMasz@kbin.social 31 points 7 months ago

"During the early 2010s White Americans were under serious attack as a collective in a way that warranted an organized response."

White American here and I can unequivocally state that this was not true then and it's not true now.

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[-] sinedpick@awful.systems 30 points 7 months ago

You guys notice how he capitalizes "white" but not "black" even when they're used in the same sentence? A pathetic little weirdo to the last little detail.

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 20 points 7 months ago

also capitalizes a couple other racial group references when the mood strikes, all "tactically" used/chosen

the amount of effort you have to expend just to hate that specifically.... fucking mental

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 18 points 7 months ago

i'm shocked that regular midwest socially conservative normal people didn't flock to him

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[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 26 points 7 months ago

he's clearly still convinced that if you could just purge the degenerates you'd get a utopia. but his post is a nice illustration of how if that actually happens they'll just keep inventing new ways to classify people as degenerate. fascists need, at all times, a face to stamp on

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[-] swlabr@awful.systems 24 points 7 months ago

Post reads like he tried the penis implants mentioned in the stubsack and now has regrets

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[-] sinedpick@awful.systems 24 points 7 months ago

It's impossible to stop returning to that steaming pile of dogshit post and find something new to sneer at:

As Delicious Tacos aptly put it, a Far Left phase is treated like a woman eating pussy in college, while a Far Right phase is treated like a man sucking cock.

SO? WHATS THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE YOU WASTE OF SPACE?

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[-] Architeuthis@awful.systems 23 points 7 months ago

conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics [...] overcivilized and effete Teutons

Kind of off topic, but this piece of wall to wall insanity reminded me how Steven Pinker tried to explain away southern US crime rates that didn't fit with his Violence Is Declining And In Fact Everything's Improving Inexorably (As Long As You Don't Rock The Boat) thesis by randomly blaming irish-catholic sheepherder genealogy.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 7 months ago

Cheezus! That's like a lot of discussion and commentary about a random fascist chud, over at the Motte, innit?

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 7 months ago

Yeah dude i was looking for schadenfruede but all i got was a masturbatory tirade about how this guy isn't calling himself a white nationalist anymore because republicans are basically racist enough for him now and don't have the skinheaded baggage of his former friends. I honestly hope he dies on the toilet.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 34 points 7 months ago

and - a key point - his prospective tradwaifus don't want him

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[-] protozoan_ninja@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

White nationalists learning about the actual history of European immigration to the US and which groups came in at which times is some of the funniest shit overall. "It's... it's all bullshit? They just kept changing what whiteness meant every year? They still do? :O" Also, props for moving to the Midwest without needing to save money

[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 19 points 7 months ago

Walt Bismarck was a dude who got big making racist Disney song parodies.

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