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Guess I'll die (lemmy.world)

And then it got worse.

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

If the clouds smaller than your thumb head for the hills. If it's bigger than your thumb don't bother running at all.

[-] elvith@feddit.de 23 points 7 months ago

Too bad, that its just made up. Check e.g. this video here.

https://youtu.be/ctuZ54MwVZU

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Just watching old footage of actual atomic tests in the 40's and 50's with the soldiers just standing around, not in a bunker, with the cloud towering above them seemingly not too far away, you could figure out that was bullshit. Actually surprised Kyle didn't show any of those after he shows his work.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago

When my dad was stationed at White Sands our neighbor in Alamogordo was a local who grew up in the area north of Tularosa. He saw Trinity go off as a teen working on his family's property.

He said he didn't see the initial blast, every thing just turned black and white and then a moment later he was knocked to the ground. Said he thought the world was ending, and he was making himself ready for the rapture.

He was really pissed when the government told everyone it was just a planned demolition of ammo. Saying even a stupid kid of a dirt farmer knew explosives didn't do that.

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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

this guy is fucking amazing in the show

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Walton Goggins is great in everything.

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I didn't knew him. Amazing actor. And amazing Sfx too

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

While the show is amazing, that's not good advice. For example that first blast was very survivable from where they were. Also there's a second shockwave that goes back the other way so don't get up too quickly. Go play around on nukemap, it's fun and educational!

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibakujumoku Tree that survived being less than 1000m from the hypocenter.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

"Try not to be near any nuclear explosions".

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 29 points 7 months ago

I saw some rules like 30 years ago on survivor chances based on their behavior, I have trouble finding them but roughly it was:

Half of those who go unconscious but then wake up within an hour will survive

75% of those who vomit but stop within an hour will live, but 25% of those who cannot stop vomiting will live.

It went on into burn patients as well - it was data from the nuclear blasts in WW2. I remember it because years later when I did some medicine I realized the first one was brain injury and the second was intestinal radiation injury. If your intestines were sterilized you won’t be here much longer.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

If your intestines were sterilized you won’t be here much longer.

Is this from lack of gut bacteria or infection? Or just cooked organs?

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I think intestineal issues are the first symptom of your DNA being so fucked you can't produce new cells. The cells in your guts needs constant replenishment and things go bad quick down there without new cells.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

So basically gut necrosis. Fucking hell that's bad.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago
[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Porque no los tres

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Fair enough, radiation isn't exactly kind to our bodies.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

When your digestive system has no active biome, it can't function and can't reboot itself, even if new bacteria is introduced later.

[-] FlapKap@feddit.dk 25 points 7 months ago

I'm curious why the mouth needs to be open. Probably to somehow avoid your lungs taking damage from the pressure wave?

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 13 points 7 months ago

ears/hearing

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Probably from the blast wave? FEMA's most recent advice doesn't say anything about keeping your mouth open: https://www.ready.gov/sites/default/files/2024-03/ready.gov_nuclear-explosion-hazard-info-sheet.pdf

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago

If you’re close enough to the impact to see the mushroom cloud, the only choice you get is if you want to die instantly or after a week or so.

(Not a physicist or a physician.)

[-] zout@fedia.io 23 points 7 months ago

Meh, Richard Feynman wrote in his biography that he saw the first mushroom cloud through a car windshield during the Manhattan project, he lived for another 40-50 years.

[-] Zron@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

He was pretty far away, and that was a small bomb

[-] zout@fedia.io 2 points 7 months ago

Still close enough to see the mushroom cloud.

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 7 months ago

Fallout is highly variable, you absolutely can live. The blast wave is a bigger threat.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A bigger immediate threat, but not the bigger threat. If you survive the initial blast and flash, fallout is almost certainly the biggest thing any survivors will be dealing with, outside of plenty of fires that WILL be started just by the light and radiation.

At least as far as overtly deadly things. Of course what ever has been blown up won't be helping, but it won't actively hurt like fallout or fires will.

[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’m no way an expert, but was just reading about the “downwinders” still fighting for compensation regarding the Manhattan project. If you are close, you are done, but if you are far enough, your exposure depends on wind direction/strength

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Yea, the wind can definitely push fallout around. Though if you even have to worry about it, you've survived the blast. A shockwave you can see coming is going to have to nail you pretty hard to kill you. Of course a nuke can do that, but it's also putting out insane amounts of light. If you're openly vulnerable to the shockwave before you can react, chances are you're already fried from the light.

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[-] HKPiax@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I guess it’s for the pressure difference? If you have your mouth open, your lungs expand and contract together with the pressure difference because of the explosion.

[-] Player2@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago

Or just have your eclipse glasses handy

[-] Fungah@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

In tests they did in the 50s they told people yo cover their eyed with their hands and close their eyed and people could see the bones in the heir hands.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago
[-] MellowSnow@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago
[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Thats very spooky And kinda cool

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago

Thats cause they didnt have eclipse glasses.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 23 points 7 months ago

Me:

Was born in southamerica.

Get not to worry about things like nuclear bombs.

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Sweet. As a bonus, Colombians & Brazilians are the sexiest people on the planet so you've got all that goin for you too.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

I always thought that was funny. Don't look at the flash. Also, the Flash is the first thing that's going to alert you to nuclear explosion. LMAO. I can already hear the VA after the first nuke gets used in war. "We have deemed your eye injury non compensable because you were trained not to look at the flash."

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You might see a meteoric fireball or three streaking towards the center of the city or airbase as the hypersonic MIRVs descend.

In general its best not to look at any meteor-looking things, as even natural meteors can explode in the atmosphere with a bright harmful flash (and produce a shockwav

[-] jmanes@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Listen man. If this is the thing that is gonna kill me, I’m looking.

[-] eletes@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nah nah nah, it'll instantly blind you. You gotta save your sight to see the mushroom and fire storm

[-] lud@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

There is not a lot you could do about not looking at the initial flash.

Either you looked at it when it happened or you didn't. Unless you could predict when it would happen of course.

[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Instructions unclear dick stuck in toaster

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Look, I'm just saying I'd enjoy the fireworks, better than dying of radiation sickness

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, "avoid" HAS always been and always WILL be the best thing to do about anything involving nuclear weapons, so.. 🤷

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Yeah dont dare to be different

[-] madsnielxyz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

the rare double soy face

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