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[-] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 92 points 1 month ago

Seriously wtf is up Nintendo’s ass lately. They’ve always been litigious but the last few years have been pretty extreme.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 34 points 1 month ago

It appears to be part of a series of fake DMCAs. Some asshat has been going around dmca-ing sfm, Gmod, and tf2 maps under different names with a lookalike email domain.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 34 points 1 month ago

The fact that DMCA requests don't have to be signed with an asymmetric key that lets you validate the company that sent it was actually behind the request is some of the dumbest shit.

We've known how to use certs online forever. Certainly well before the DMCA. Why the fuck wasn't that a provision?

Oh right because our politicians are tech illiterate apes.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Maybe a new head of department?

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

Or overcompensation since they acted on emulators and found out there's more to this? Someone's started another useless crusade.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago

The emulator is more likely that the Switch 2 was supposed to be released this year and ended up getting pushed to next year. This means they have to support the Switch fully for another year and it's a harder sell when it's easy for customers to make a choice between:

  • A Switch and 3ish games

Or

  • A Steam Deck that can play all the Switch games for free

When these are both the same price. The fact that instructions were easy to find and follow didn't help.

[-] notfromhere@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Solution is simple. Sell their fucking games on Steam.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I fear they're not going to stop here either. Soon we'll read news about Minecraft mods and other fan content as well. Backup everything.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

They're like Japanese Disney. They're nothing without their IP and they know it.

They also know that the only reason they have DK as a character is because Universal dropped the ball in protecting their IP. If they let Garry's Mod casually have a "Mario" character in it, it dilutes their ability to legally go after some other studio who straight up makes an unofficial Mario game.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It started after Satoru Iwata's death in 2015. He was a notorious true gamer/engineer before CEO and his vision was always long-term. The two who have replaced him since have decidedly chosen the short-term route for fast profit vs long term consumer binding.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I wonder if there being an R4 style cart released recently for the switch has lit a fire under their arses

Maybe they expanded their legal department recently

[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 78 points 1 month ago

How efficient is it to antagonize people that are actively promoting your own content for free on other platforms? Does this actually work for Nintendo?

[-] Shampiss@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

I guess they antagonize anyone that has moderate exposure using their IP

In some countries copyright law says that if you let people use your copyrighted material with little to no impediment then you cannot suddenly request whoever is using your material to stop

Let's say that Nintendo allows fans to make fan made Mario games for 5 years. Then they suddenly sue everyone and say "hey you have to pay for copyright or shutdown". A judge can decide that since they didn't enforce their copyright for some time they cannot sue people that are using their IP.

From a legal perspective the act of policing your own copyrighted material is the company's responsibility. This law prevents companies from relaxing their copyright claims for years (essentially allowing people to use it) and then suing everyone for using their IP. In other words Just let everyone use it, then sue them. The law is there to prevent that

Nintendo is likely super strict because "let people use your copyrighted material with little to no impediment" has room for interpretation in a court room. So they go to the conservative side and shut down everyone. Also consider that they're right next to China. The piracy capital of the world. It's not a surprise they're scared about their copyright.

I'm not saying that what they're doing is right. It's not. But I see where it comes from.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 12 points 1 month ago

People that don't know of this (or don't care) will indiscriminately buy their products. To unseat them it would require a handheld that targets the same market and a killer game for that handheld.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nintendo is a "family friendly" brand before all else and really only cares about the experience of children playing their games and adults buying their games for children to play. They count on their core IPs to draw in those kids as adults, but don't put much effort in catering to an adult audience. They put more effort in with the Switch (game store with more adult oriented games), but still minimal effort - their original properties are family friendly.

They see other people using their IP as diluting their brand value rather than promoting it. They think their characters are what makes people nostalgic for their games and drives brand value. So they want you to only be able to see your "favorite Nintendo characters" from Nintendo official sources and have complete control over that experience.

I think they're wrong about most of that. The characters are, for the most part, pretty generic and simple. What people like about Nintendo is that the games are accessible, they played when they were kids, and they were often introduced to those games by parents or older siblings. There's a social context to Nintendo games that is unique and nostalgic. They're often some of the first games you play as a kid, and they're the first games you think of when you want to introduce your own kids/nieces & nephews, etc. to gaming. I don't think that unofficial Super Smash Bros tournaments or Gary's Mod having fan-made Mario models in it dilutes that in the slightest but Nintendo does drive away adults who are the primary drivers of the Nintendo brand's popularity (as they are the purchasers). Once it's these young adults' turn to share Nintendo games with the next generation, I think Nintendo's litigiousness will hurt them because it will have driven many of these people away.

[-] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nintendont,
the lawsuit company that makes games on the side, strikes again...

We're well beyond the point by now of me ever buying anything from them again.
I won't support such behavior of any company.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

According to a comment on another post on lemmy. The takedown notice is fake, probably sent by some troll. Garry's Mod is still removing stuff though, because they think it's real.

Source: https://twitter.com/MonikaCinnyRoll/status/1783244871119106415

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Legally, they have to, until they get a counter-notice (or realize it's fake).

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Apparently they confirmed, and it isn't fake 😀

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 42 points 1 month ago

Time to start pirating Nintendo games again

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 29 points 1 month ago

again? why did you stop?

Remember, pirating Nintendo is never wrong!

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago
[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

Yarr me hearty

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[-] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago

I heard if you go into your bathroom and turn off the lights. Then close your eyes and spin around three times well saying "Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo!"

It will summon their lawyers and they will drag you to court through your bathroom mirror for violating copyright.

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 38 points 1 month ago
[-] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

You're.. planning to do WHAT to the goombas?!

[-] BioDriver@beehaw.org 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nintendo 🤝 Disney

No fun allowed

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 26 points 1 month ago

Nintendo have permanently lost a customer in me because of their recent behaviour.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 1 month ago

Their games have been easily pirated for a while anyways

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Honestly, unless you're a young teen or schoolkid, they don't put out much content worth it anyway. Unless you consider endless variations on Mario innovative.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I might get a switch 2 only after it's hackable. I thought of doing it with the switch but it seemed too complex for me. At this point I'm really fed up with Nintendo's anti consumer bs. And I'm not just referring to the copyright takedowns and closure yuzu but things like the Mario all stars collection which they then created artificial scarcity around and the Zelda anniversary where they release a HD remaster of skyward sword which is seen as the weakest of the series. I do enjoy the odd Nintendo game but I've had my switch since the year after it came out and I've only beaten 4-5 games on it and I've only 10-20 at most on it and those are mostly indies.

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[-] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

"you're appreciating our games wrong"

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

As the parent of a small child I wish I could boycott Nintendo.

[-] drspod@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

You could introduce your child to emulation :)

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Another year or two...

Problem is that Nintendo for all their faults still make GREAT games for kids. And if adult pc gamers think they have it bad they should have a look at the predatory shitshow that is tablet games for the 5 and under market... its properly fucking ridiculous. At least Nintendo has the common decency to give me an amazing and full game for its eyewatering prices.

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