IS THE UNIVERSE INFINITE OR FINITE (hexbear.net)

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[-] context@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

finite but unbounded

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

he'll yeah

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

infinite under communism, finite under capitalism

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

Finite but yuge trump-dapper

[-] sloth@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

refuse-the-question

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago

Well the universe is finite (and expanding) but what exists outside the bounds of our spatial dimensions are currently unknowable

[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yep! The observable universe has an edge we're fairly confident about. Though while it is absolutely "expanding", unfortunately, space around it is also expanding, so the universe is getting bigger in size, but we don't think we're gaining any new mass or exciting celestial objects. Everything's just getting further away..

[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

I wanna grab on the edge of the universe like a tablecloth and ride it into the (I must emphasize, deeply metaphorical) sunset

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The universe is big, really big. Almost as big as the galaxy - Dan Quayle

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

I'll never tell! 😠

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

who care lmao nerd

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Never mind the universe, what about the European Union? Is that infinite or finite?

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

It's infinite in its cringe dimension

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Finite, we'll start killing eachother again as soon as decolonisation is complete

[-] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Except for GDPR and DMA

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

Nite

[-] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

It’s as big as your mom

[-] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

You still believe in that universe shit? Grow up

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Infinite since it's a procedurally generated simulation

[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

all I know is that as a non-native English speaker, it's infinitely weird to me that finite isn't pronounced like the -finite in infinite

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

English is Mandarin except with latin characters and global hegemony. Pronounciation is a fuck

[-] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

infinity + 1

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

It is both and neither at the same time. lea-think

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

The universe is dialectical.

[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

finite 4d sphere, with extremely small curvature

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Finite. You can't have infinitely many things. Where would you put them?

Edit: Apologies to Steven Wright

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Is a circle infinite or finite? How about a ball?

[-] puff@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

A circle has finite surface area. A sphere has finite volume and finite surface area.

[-] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

But you can walk straight for all infinity. That's kind of my point when people talk about an infinite/finite universe they conflate the distance that can be travelled with the surface area/volume of it.

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[-] hexthismess@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Infinite

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Some infinites are smaller than others.

[-] abc@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

As far as it will ever concern humanity - infinite.

[-] blight@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

yes

[-] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

grillman the universe is like my affinity for grilling

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The universe is like in cartoons when they are chasing eachother in a hallway with many doors and they run in one door and come out of one on the opposite side.

I hope that answered your question.

[-] lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 months ago

That would be a "torus" 3D topography if I'm not mistaken

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

The universe is an inflating balloon.

[-] Stoneykins@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

There might be some parts where it is finite but from where I live it looks infinite

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

graps the barrel and pulls the gun to my forehead go ahead motherfucker, make my day

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Define Universe. Hubble Volume obviously finite. Current inflationary cosmos likely infinite in space but not in other dimensions. Entire substrate the cosmos comes from likely infinite along many more dimensions.

[-] puff@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Entire substrate the cosmos comes from likely infinite along many more dimensions.

Agree with the first part of your comment but this last part... There's no experimental evidence whatsoever for other dimensions besides 1 time + 3 space so this is extremely speculative.

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean, Time might be infinite, but it is bounded at least on one side and I suspect it's not bounded on the other.

In any case no one has evidence even for infinite space, for all we know it stops dead a Planck Length beyond the Hubble volume. Though this would require uh...extensive revision...of current models.

As for other dimensions, I'm using the term in the loosest possible sense to mean the substrate the current cosmos came from. It could have come ex Nihlo, of course, but it seems more likely it's part of a greater structure.

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

Infinite in the Y direction, but finite in the X direction

[-] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

multiple inflationary events occuring outside the horizon of individual "universes"

so basically infinite sea foam of both ancient voids where protons barely exist anymore, mature universes with active star birth, and places with weird physics that fell apart quickly

over a long enough time frame, some of those ancient voids may light up again when some quantum tunneling event occurs