Hate. Let me tell you how much I have come to hate the leafblower.

Seriously just use a fucking rake, I like using a fucking rake, I like sweeping, I like the silent meditativeness involved in using these things and getting the job done slower, who gives a shit? It's not a job worth doing and it's certainly it's not worth the sonic enshittification.

I suggested to people around me to switch to battery mowers , which had a reputation of sucking ass many years ago that its never managed to shed, but one guy caved and bought a Chinese egopower and the rest saw it be better in noise and power and also ended up getting similar ones. Now I can enjoy weekends without the constant 2 stroke drone of gas mowers. Also less exhaust fumes in the air which is nice.

Doesn't solve the issue of wasting this giant plot of land that could be used for native flowers or gardening or growing herbs and veggies, but its better than nothing.

Somewhat Verbally Abusive "Kill Your Lawn" Instructional Video Nice - Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't

The other worse noise in the world is the near constant droning from 8am-8pm in suburban areas of lawnmowers/leaf blowers/edgers/etc. Everyone individually mowing their individual lawns with their individual lawnmowers on their individual schedules. Lawns are the stupidest fucking things on earth. Insane waste of resources and a huge source of annoyance for literally everyone who has to exist around them

every week my complex does their landscaping starting at like 7-8am (no noise ordinance against that apparently!) and then the neighboring complex does it the next day. definitely love to not be able to sleep with the windows open when the weather is nice.

What if you only mow once the grass is so tall the city could fine you?

I agree it's not black and white. Consideration is a two-way street. All of this was discussed in the previous thread and I think there's some good discussion there.

This comes back around to my unironic assertation that our concept of time is a bourgeois construct that exists to sell alarm clocks.

we live in a society

NKVD shows up

- Yeah my wife is right ther.. wait why are you cuffing me

This is common sense and while I agree, in principle, I feel like 90% of noise complaints that get escalated have to do with two groups that don't follow common sense on the issue: power-hungry assholes who just want to control people and start shit, and genuinely disabled people whose noise tolerance is completely different than most people (hypersensitivity to sound, auditory hallucinations etc.).

My sister got harassed out of an apartment by an elderly lady downstairs (not sure which category she fit into) who would complain about literally any sound they made upstairs. Normal conversation, in the early evening, would prompt angry letters in their mailbox. She would write meticulous logs of all their "transgressions" (like, "1 AM, chair moved across floor") and threaten to send them to the police, talk shit to other neighbors trying to spark drama etc. I don't feel like there was really any way my sister could have fixed that situation by being "better", because she didn't do anything wrong. Life makes sounds sometimes, maybe even at inconvenient hours. Sometimes you gotta move a chair real quick at 1 AM. It is what it is. All she could have done was accept that her downstairs neighbor has extreme needs, and then work to live a completely silent life. She didn't, she moved out instead. Like most people would probably do.

I guess my point is that having simple "common sense" rules about this doesn't really work in a system where vulnerable/sensitive people live next door to neurotypical/non-sensitive people whose ordinary lives makes a baseline of noise. People like my sister's upstairs neighbor would probably need detached housing or a heavily insulated apartment, which I imagine a better society could probably provide to those who need it.

Yeah but they aren't talking about third shift people. first second and third shifts typically refer to 7am-3pm, 3pm-11pm, and 11pm-7am shifts respectively, so third shift would be going to sleep in the morning. Source: used to work at 7-11 and a warehouse that had 24hr operations.

under gommunism we'll all have soundproof apartments up to 130 dB

We have the best struggle sessions folks, many people are saying this.

Heck yeah! I can't wait to get extremely mad at fellow poor folks!

I'm anti-Australian but pro-hooning

I just wish they would drive through the suburbs instead of assaulting me with loud wet fart noises for hours doing circles in the parking lot

edit I don't know what a hoonie dirtbag or whatever is I just wanted to complain

Also you should be allowed to blast music sometimes, because its nice and being considerate means also being considerate that sometimes people need to be noisy. The issue occurs when "sometimes" becomes "all of the time" and "my neighbour asked me to quiet down" becomes "my kkkracker kkkoloniSSer neighboourgeoise ordered the Gestapo on me for the crime of destressing (firing guns into the air like a looney toons cowboy) after a long work day. I am the revolution and the proletariat and everyone should accommodate all my needs and I should not because we live in a big city so get used to it liberal"

you'd have places to go when you wanted to do something loud, this whole argument is so silly