I know it's said over and over and over, but regular exercise!! There are certain types and times of exercise that are more effective, but generally speaking, exercise promotes serotonin conversion to melatonin and makes sleepy time easier.

We buy 1mg. Once we couldn't find any so we bought 3mg and cut them in half. I found it interesting that OP used actual dosage for caffeine but not for melatonin. Three pills could be 3mg or 60+.

Bioavailability of oral melatonin is very poor though. IIRC it's about 10%, so that 5mg sounds about right.

Somewhere between 7 and 12, depending on the kind of coffee.

If you get to 100 you unlock super speed

I have no issues sleeping on 120mg of Vyvanse, I even find it easier to sleep.

Are you sure you're not misdiagnosed?

Did you take slow release aderall? My aderall is worn off before I go to sleep and I actually sleep better since I take aderall because I spend more energy during the day.

So is not treating my ADHD in a healthy manner but I'm not fixing that either

/s means sarcastic so I should mix upper and downers?

Melatonin stimulates your bodies vitamin D creation, which makes you tired when it gets dark. It's not a magical bullet to solve insomnia, but it helps sleep regulation for people who don't get enough sunlight. You still need some sunlight though, just less.

Melatonin actually has a scientific basis. It's a naturally produced hormone that will have an effect on most people, but being a hormone, ymmv. Homeopathy is pure quackery from top to bottom

Could try and ask your doctor about cyproheptadine. Keeps me out cold

Let my parents both try it and they slept 8 solid hours.

It's also classed as an antihistamine for what that's worth.

Can melatonin even cross the blood brain barrier? Caffeine definitely can...

Hey, I commented elsewhere on this post and I wanted to let you know that the reason it doesn’t help you is likely because all melatonin supplements are way too strong!! Our body is releasing .3-.5mg of melatonin during the evening, and over the counter melatonin ranges from 5mg-20(!!)mg per pill.

As you can see, this is WAY too much for our body, and it saturates every melatonin receptor in the brain resulting in over signaling of these pathways and a tolerance to melatonin. People who consistently take it each night can really mess up the sleep related pathways in the brain, and the desensitization means that the naturally released melatonin is not even close to creating the proper response in the brain.

It can be difficult to find in some places, but if you’d like to use it there are 1mg supplements out there that I would recommend! :)

You’re on the right track, but funnily enough you got it switched around!

Research shows that melatonin binding leads to downstream release of adenosine, so if caffeine is blocking its binding action sleep is not on the way!

Here’s the paper I am referencing: https://doi.org/10.1016%2Fj.neuron.2015.02.016

“We find that melatonin promotes sleep downstream of the circadian clock as it is not required to initiate or maintain circadian rhythms. Additionally, we provide evidence that melatonin may induce sleep in part by promoting adenosine signaling, thus potentially linking circadian and homeostatic control of sleep”

I'd say higher stakes from the 700mg alone. RedBull has 80mg of caffeine.