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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 68 points 2 weeks ago

yeonmi-park And in bad country after a natural disaster caused by climate change the regime accelerated dead bodies are passed over for their national flag which takes priority.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 61 points 2 weeks ago

This is like an echo of that 9/11 shit where a cross-shaped piece of wreckage got the hogs oinking for years. joker-amerikkklap

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 59 points 2 weeks ago

geordi-no Bush did 9/11

geordi-yes Jesus did 9/11 and left a cross as a calling card

jesus-cleanse 9/11

[-] OperationOgre@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thinking back on it I'll always marvel at how the hogs could simultaneously hold these two thoughts in their head: "NYC is a liberal hellhole, a modern Sodom" and "we must transform into Super American Patriots 2 after WE were attacked by terrorists"

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

I have reached the conclusion that holding mutually exclusive beliefs is a core feature of fascism. The only stable belief they have is the belief in their own supremacy and they will take up any other belief that advances their supremacy. History is full of such examples, when the Nazis were a small struggling party they were moaning about the freeze peach of Hitler, when they gained power they violently oppressed any dissenting speech. In my own country, without skipping a beat fascists transitioned from believing that banning corporal punishment of children was "monstrous socialism" to believing that Muslims are savages for beating their children, once they saw popular opinion had shifted.

Liberals will see this inconsistency of beliefs as a weakness, and think they are clever for making gotcha! clapbacks. They're not. Far from being a weakness, this slippery ideological flexibility is one of the strengths of fascism. Not only are fascists able to appeal to groups of people whose material interests are objectively antagonistic to eachother, believing everything and nothing at the same time makes them pretty much immune to liberal ideals of free democratic debate in the marketplace of ideas. You can't debate a fascist, if a belief is no longer opportune for them they will always have had the opposite opinion. At best trying to debate fascists is a waste of time, at worst it legitimises them and normalises their supremacist ideology.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

I mean yeah Umberto Eco listed this in Ur-Fascism. Fascists are only concerned about power and the ends justify the means of acquiring said power. They revel in lying and being disingenuous.

Insert Levi Jeans polka satire quote here idk do we have a bot for that?

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think they're actually lying about their beliefs. At least not in a traditional sense of the word. Fascist leaders are as full of shit as any other bourgeois politician but I find it unlikely that everyone's racist uncle is deliberately weaving a web of lies to conceal his true power level. That is simply too much effort to put into it.

It is more likely that they actually believe what they say they believe, even though it is completely internally contradictory. They have a more or less conscious conviction that they ought to enjoy status and privilege above those who are not like them and as a consequence they gravitate towards adopting whatever position that advances this conviction because it feels good to them.

I don't know if there's much use for this kind of psychoanalysis but at least to me this is yet another argument why trying to talk reason to fascists is futile. They did not arrive at their fascism through reasoning but rather through gut feelings and half-realised opportunism.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 weeks ago

I think we're saying the same thing. Maybe "lying" is the wrong word? I think you're right that they say what makes them feel good. I think they know they don't have consistent beliefs but they try and rationalize this by whatever rhetoric they can.

I've just ran into too many fascists who became fascists through sheer contrarianism I guess lol

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Literally the stereotype of dumb prehistoric humans being so impressed by mundane natural phenomena that they start worshipping a tree branch or something for the rest of their life

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago

It will be retired from use.

This thing is virtually trash, even to the flag fuckers lmao

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago

The Nazis had their blood flag, the YanKKKees can have their "mud flag." Same-same lol

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

The confederates had their "blood stained banner"

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

No! It will be taken to a farm upstate where it can fly freely with all the other flags all day.

[-] WafflesTasteGood@hexbear.net 44 points 2 weeks ago

Thousands of people are literally stranded

Let's stop and pick up this tattered cloth to make sure it's safe. amerikkka-clap

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

yeonmi-park if you don't stop to pick up flag and respectfully retire it with a prayer to ronald reagan and ghost of slavery, your mother and grandmother and great grandmother house will be ordered drone striked

[-] buh@hexbear.net 42 points 2 weeks ago

That flag had a family 😔

[-] Hexboare@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

When an East India Company mommy flag lives another flag very much...

[-] miz@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago

moving moment

bowel moving maybe

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 38 points 2 weeks ago

Gotta nurse the flag back to good health so that it can go back to being good fuel for a firefreedom-hater

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

You actually retire a flag by burning it

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but respectfully.🤮

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 36 points 2 weeks ago

The American flag fetish is a trip.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

smuglord: “You are such a dumb, silly, childish ideology.”

marx-joker: “You’re the ideology that sees inanimate objects as more important than human life.”

doomjak

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

Well, that flag was no angel

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

If you've ever walked through any vaguely chuddy neighborhood you'd expect American flags to be washed up like seaweed after a flood

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

kelly George Soulless

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Guy yelled at me that it "wasn't the time" when I defended looting gonna ping him with this.

[-] VernetheJules@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago
[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

"Moving."

Yeah okay dude, settle down before you throw your back out

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

Do bowel movements count?

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Simultaneously pathetic and disgusting

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Buncha primitive screwheads

[-] TrimmedDubya@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Caring more for symbols and photo ops than their own people. freedom-and-democracy

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