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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Good meme, butthurt community

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago
[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 22 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I can find a comment by you that got removed a year ago, but no ban.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 27 points 12 hours ago

It's a real shame that a lot of atheist communities online are just circle jerk condescending bs. There are some interesting discussions to be had but I guess we'll have to look elsewhere.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago

Deadass, it seems like atheist communities are full of these vibes

Like I was that kid once, but grow up please

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 12 hours ago

Well maybe many of those communities are actually filled with 14 year olds

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago

they absolutely are. Where else can a teen growing up in a religious family and forced to attend church/mosque/temples vent their frustration, and they are definitely going to be edgy about it, that's what being teen is about after all

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 7 hours ago

If you don't let your inner 14 year old atheist out every once in a while what's the point?

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago
[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 37 points 13 hours ago

I was banned because I said that a meme wasn't Atheist but plain Islamophobia. No explanation given.

[-] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 13 hours ago

This is such a huge problem in atheism communities, which is why I don't spend any time in them despite being secular and non religious myself (yeah, I honestly don't even like using the term "atheist" anymore). Religious or not, you shouldn't be telling people what to believe or how to believe. That goes for hardline Christian nationalists just as much as it goes for hardline Atheists attacking anyone of faith. If it's not hurting anyone, let people believe what they believe.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Religious or not, you shouldn’t be telling people what to believe or how to believe. That goes for hardline Christian nationalists just as much as it goes for hardline Atheists attacking anyone of faith. If it’s not hurting anyone, let people believe what they believe.

I would agree, but I've actually become sympathetic to the opposite viewpoint recently. It is hurting people. Look at the policy decisions in the US that are driven by religious fundamentalism. Heck, just think about the core premise that faith is stronger than reason. That's an inherently problematic and extremely exploitable viewpoint. I don't think something like religion can be counted as harmless by ignoring all the examples of harm that it causes. If a belief is only not dangerous when it agrees with other beliefs, and is dangerous when it disagrees, then that is a fundamentally dangerous belief all the time, which only becomes apparent sometimes. I think religion has a purpose, to give community to those who need it, but fundamentally it is not good.

spoiler


If God is reading this, I'm sorry, but I do hope I get points for trying to hold good beliefs from fundamentals. It's also a reasonable religious viewpoint that organized religion has been taken over by the literal Antichrist. You could say that I hold faith that good acts are judged accordingly regardless of religion.

...I would make a really weird Christian.

[-] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 33 minutes ago

The thing is that is exactly what I mean by having a problem with people who force their religious values onto others, which is expressly not okay. But I know plenty of people, be they Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or whatever else who practice their faith in their own lives and do not disrupt the lives of others according to their beliefs. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of religious people I have met and know in real life are like this. Christian nationalists are different, they don't respect the beliefs of others and want to force their faith onto other people. That's where the line is. What I have a problem with is those who attack people who are not past that line, who are practicing their faith in their own lives without forcing anything onto others.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 28 minutes ago

I think that's fair. I generally follow that philosophy in my personal life; many members of my family are religious to various degrees, but we don't really discuss it much, and their beliefs don't really effect my perception of them, because we don't try to force our beliefs on each other.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 4 hours ago

Thanks, Sam Harris.

I read "The Moral Landscape". 90% of it is pretty good, but he'll randomly drop "and that's why we need to be worried about Islamic takeover of western Europe" into something completely unrelated. He spends a lot more time complaining about Islamic fundamentalist than he does the Christian fundamentalist who actually have political power in the US (and to a lesser degree, western Europe). Then you get to a chapter that's all about religious influence on society, but it's all about relatively relaxed Christians who have Ph.Ds in some field and show up at scientific conferences.

You might expect a word somewhere about the fundamentalist Christians who control roughly half of Congress, but no. It's all Muslims and Christians who make it a more personal thing.

[-] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Wow, that is pretty ridiculous

[-] reliv3@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I agree with this sentiment, but Christianity is partly defined by "spreading the word of god". So "telling people what to believe" is par for the course (think missionaries).

Curious though, why do you not refer to yourself as atheist? Non-religious is actually not very specific. Non-religious can mean Agnostic Theist, Agnostic Atheist, or Atheist.

[-] Soluna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Really I prefer the word secular for myself, and for me that means I am comfortable within my own ignorance. Scientifically, we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a god/gods, afterlife, etc. They are unfalsifiable, and therefore inproveable either way. So I just say I am comfortable not knowing. I neither assert the existence of god or the nonexistence of god, because I have no way to know either is true. That, and as I stated previously I just don't like some of the connotations aetheism has gotten. Long ago I used to be a very loud, annoying, self-proclaimed atheist. But eventually I realized that just as there is no way to prove theism, there is no way to prove atheism. That, and I recognized that in my efforts to "spread" atheism and debunk religion I'd basically become what I was originally trying to "fight against," essentially. Now I should be clear that I very much do still massively criticize those who try to exercise their religion onto others. I'm trans so I'm very used to it at this point. But I know plenty of religious people from all kinds of different religious backgrounds who practice in a way that is accepting of all people and does not impact those who do not share their faith, and I really see no problem with that.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

The constant angry circlejerk abounds. Deadass I got way more atheist mileage out of the DankChristianMemes sub than any atheist sub on the old place.

Some fuckers are too euphoric to have fun it seems.

[-] keropoktasen@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago

The mod clearly is not an atheist. What kind of atheist is afraid to demonize islam?

[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 8 points 5 hours ago

Without knowing the situation, in the world as it exists today, there’s a lot of racist people that use Muslim or anti-Muslim rhetoric to refer to or denigrate any person of roughly Middle Eastern descent. Think of how many stories there were of Sikhs that were assaulted physically or verbally after September 11.

A moderator or admin who is aware of this could easily still allow criticism of Islam, the religion, while taking actions against those who are just being racist assholes with a veneer of anti religion. I have seen this many times before.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 23 points 13 hours ago

Have you tried sprinkling a random reference to "sky fairy" in your post? Teenage atheists think they're clever every time they hit that one.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Fuck off, everyone knows it's the magic sky fairy, fake fan

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 12 hours ago

Meatball man...🎼

In the sky... 🎵

Flying high... 🎶

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

I think I am banned from there too, don't even know why, I think I managed to find the log once and it something like "no idiots" I don't even remember posting there, I just remember it being annoying as fuck and being full of le fedora atheist circlejerk shit.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I've posted something unintelligent as an experiment. Now we wait 😉

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

You'll be accepted in kind, I assume ;)

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Task succeeded catastrophically.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 13 hours ago

Maybe because you didn't have enough faith

[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 9 points 13 hours ago

Impossible. I watched the music video for Faith by Limp Bizkit every afternoon on TRL for like three months straight in 7th grade. I was up to my eyeballs in faith!

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

Orther! I got a plan! We just gotta HAVE FAITH

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Unrelated to the post but is /c/communityname a valid link on some apps/platforms? Or is it just a carryover from the /r/ days.

[-] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Just a carryover. You reference communities here with an exclamation point. For instance:

!atheistmemes or !linux@lemmy.ml

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 7 points 12 hours ago

No it's not "just" a carryover - it's a valid link actually, if you put it into the link portion of a URL, even without the http part.

Also, your first exclamation link does not work. Probably bc it lacks the ending part so like !atheistmemes@lemmy.world.

This is all explained much better than my words here: Guide | How should I link to a community?

[-] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

!atheistmemes works for me, I think that might be a client thing, which is why including the @instnance is recommended, since it works for more of not all

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 12 hours ago

Interesting. I did check that it was not merely my instance being different, bc even on Lemmy.world it still didn't work, though both of these from the webpage UI.

The link also does not work on Voyager for Android, which iirc is the most popular app.

So not working for these two approaches means that it's not a safe bet that it will work for most recipients, I believe.

On a related note, if you allow the webpage UI to finish the completion, then it will turn it into a link that will work, like !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world. But I don't know about all the variety of apps and how each one would handle it - Voyager for instance seems to do nothing at all with the exclamation point, at least while you are still composing the message.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 12 hours ago

This will help: Guide | How should I link to a community?.

I assembled that link specifically for you on lemmy.world, but for anyone else on another instance who wants it, note that links to posts do not really work well since they take you off of your instance to go there, but you can either paste the link to the search bar to "translate" it into one that works on your instance, or in this case it's easier to just go to !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca and it's one of the posts near the top.

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Just a carryover, I'm not typing out the fqdn for that circus

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

(/s) Probably bc it reminds people of the site-that-shall-not-be-named?

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