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[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 8 points 14 hours ago

After four years of work from home, since the beginning of the pandemic, we'll soon have to start going back in once a week. I know, that's a lot better than many people that have been forced into 5 days a week or similar bullshit, but it's definitely one more day a week than I want to go in. DC area, too, so you know traffic is going to be a nightmare, as always.

I'd even be willing to go in quarterly or whatever for special meetings. But weekly? We've proven we can do this.

They're pushing this whole "hybrid" working and "rethink how you work!" and "it's all about teams!" But they didn't require any sort of coordination on coming into the office for teams, or anything along those lines - it's a free for all. So instead of sitting at home on a call, we're going to be sitting in cubicles on phone calls. It doesn't make any sense.

And even if they had decided teams should coordinate in-office days, my area in particular works with so many different teams that we'd still be remote for most of them. Or in the office every day, which would not go over very well.

But I'm sure the Popeye's (fast food chicken place) across the street will welcome us back. The one that has survived over four years without us. No one I know has ever gone there.

We're going to lose a bunch of people as a result. And hiring is a disaster that isn't likely to be resolved any time soon. It's gonna be a fun few years...

Counting down the days until I can retire. Unfortunately, there are too many, I'll have to deal with this. Or find a completely remote job.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 14 hours ago

I know, that’s a lot better than many people that have been forced into 5 days a week or similar bullshit

I hope for your sake this isn't just their first test followed by an escalating series of demands :-/

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Ha, actually they played themselves on that front. I don't want to get into all of the details, but basically there's literally not enough space for all of us to be in on the same day. There used to be, but they shrank the footprint to save money.

Honestly I think the plan from our upper management was to allow a lot of full-time remote working, but that got killed by even higher up people. So, now we have this. I actually think our upper management isn't really the bad guy on this one and are just trying to make the best of a bad situation, dealing with idiotic requirements coming from on high.

I also think there are some artificial factors keeping it at one day a week, for now. It might go up to two at some point in the future, but a lot can happen between now and then. And two days might start running into that space limitation again, and they won't easily be able to expand the footprint - nor will they want to spend the money.

[-] drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 97 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Boss calls me (the sole on-site IT person) on a sickday and tells me something important broke and I need to come and fix it (45 minute bus ride one-way). I know exactly what broke and I tell her if she goes into my office and turn my computer on then I can remote in and fix it in literally 5 seconds. She nearly screams at me saying that my contract doesn't allow remote work and I don't remember what exactly was said after this point but it was something along the lines of:

"It won't be fixed for another 5 days then because I'm not coming in today (Thursday, and I don't work Fridays or Mondays)."

"Ok bye"

"bye"

Guess it wasn't important

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 8 points 15 hours ago

It was quite generous of you to even suggest solving it on a sickday. Boss should have understood.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

You can always spot the ones who care about the power structures more than the purpose by stupid shit like this.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 198 points 1 day ago

I'm not allowed to work from home and it seriously pisses me off. Whenever I complain about this to my boss, she always gives me shit like "you're a school bus driver".

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

They'll hire remote drivers from India soon enough.

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[-] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am in a weird position, as a software developer, I work for a tiny company and they’re against work from home, but they’re absolutely amazing and accommodating in all other areas and I have no complaints.

So I had car issues and was able to work from home 3 days a week, but it still pisses me off that I have to go in those two days. They say it’s so we can communicate and ask for help, but mostly it’s a silent office and we can’t even wear headphones. Often I can go in and if I’m in a mood there is no communication all day long (I am the chatty one and will engage in debates a lot). Yet I’ve had to take a 3 hours public transport route to work (car issues) just to sit there and not talk.

I’m torn because they’re amazing in every other aspect and super understanding about my mental health issues and leaving early and making up time etc. we don’t have targets and are just trusted we will work hard, I struggle as I overthink and put a lot more pressure on myself than my employer does, but I can’t change the way my mind work.

[-] ninekeysdown@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Headphones as a reasonable accommodation for a disability eg ADHD/Autism/etc might be a good option if it applies to you

[-] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Why no headphones? Is management a bunch of Nazis?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago

I've once visited an office that was like this. Was a publisher with a big IT department. Large office room, perhaps 40-50 desks. No headphones allowed. I don't remember the reason. I would go crazy, it was not a quiet office.

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[-] coriza@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

People will look at one aspect and say that the job sucks. Truth is, there is no perfect job and only you can tell that it balances out. The way you talk about it really feels like a nice place to work, with the exception of the headphones thing, that is weird. And if you like to chat with coworkers a full remote Job may be kinda hell, it is really easy to feel isolated and not connect with people because it takes more effort like going to audio or video calls to hangout or having to chat over text more

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 33 points 1 day ago

Which is weird cause the savings in not comming in to center is a win for everyone.

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The corporate office I work at panicked because they were going to get reclassified as a "remote hub" for tax purposes, which would have reduced everyone's pay. But I'd personally prefer to take the cut instead...

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago

Oh didn't know that was a thing.

[-] Lennny@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Not the real estate the finance industry relies on for REITs, think of all those poor restaurants opened in downtown wherever. No nobody will eat there now rent payments are being missed and REITs are dipping. Uh oh

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago

It's true. I doubt the corps care though. Seems like the reason is millions of people live outside the city. Maybe find a way to make then want to stay by I dk making more residential buildings that are affordable.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

But how am I supposed to control my workers if they work from home?

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 15 hours ago

Lol same energy as How am I supposed to make sure my partner doesn't cheat on me if I don't GPS tag him?

[-] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 day ago

...you shouldn't have to respond in home hours regardless. Any time you spend on work during your life outside of contract is them stealing your labour.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 day ago

Many IT jobs require an on-call rotation. Even when not on call, an SME can be called in an emergency. Time spent on call-outs typically either pays overtime or gives comp time. The infrastructure has to keep running, that's just how it is.

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

pays overtime or comp time

You're very funny, great joke! 😭

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

I keep critical applications running at work that thousands depend on. While I was at a union convention, one of my apps broke. I had to login that day and fix it while going over the budget with other members.

This is how the IT world is. I'm the only person capable of maintaining it and I must be available if things go wrong. The show must go on.

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[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

I'm on hybrid, but my entire team is all over the world, so I'm just as alone in the office as at home. The only difference is that in the office I'm bound by the train schedule, so I can't take out of hours calls. My coworkers and manager keep petitioning HR to let me work from home full time.

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[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 233 points 2 days ago

As a middle manager in a corporate hellscape, one of my few joys in life is setting logic traps for HR and making them choose between admitting company policy is bullshit or directly instructing me to violate labor laws.

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[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 360 points 2 days ago

The policy is you can only work from home when it benefits the company, not you.

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[-] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago

A previous job of mine wanted people in my team to volunteer for being on call overnight for a week at a time.

No-one did, so they forced us. I emailed all managers involved including HR I said that I would like to opt-out for various reasons like family, mental and physical health, and also that the pay was in no way adequate for what they wanted. Again they pushed, so I replied with I'll do it but would be unavailable most afternoons and evenings with my kids and things they have on. That I also won't be able to answer after going to sleep because I take my mental health very seriously and need quality sleep to function.

So the first night I slept peacefully as I normally do as I have my phone set to go to DND automatically. I got called in because I didn't answer a call that came in last night, I asked when it was, about midnight, and said well that's because I was asleep.

Go to the next 2 mangers up, say the same thing and they say that I need to answer. I explain the email stating that I would be unable to answer calls at many times including when asleep and how no-one replied with that being a problem. One of the managers was like, wait up, you flagged this; yup; can you send me the email chain; yup. Got removed and told I wouldn't need to worry about doing it anymore.

It found a new job shortly after that.

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