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[-] regul@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago

They feel the same about the homeless. Literally every west coast subreddit, ostensibly full of "liberals" will upvote comments like "It would be much cheaper to just house them all in tents in the desert."

Like they want to do fucking Manzanar for homeless people.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

The maddening part is that it's still cheaper to put them into houses but that would require you to admit they're human.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago

The cruelty is required to scare others into submission.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago

"good serfs work for peanuts, otherwise you could end up like The Bad People" porky-happy

[-] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

porky-scared-flipped and give up our reserve army of labor? how will we keep wages down?

[-] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

and discipline anyone that gets too uppity?!

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

You fool, you haven't considered the property values!

[-] VHS@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah, it's disturbing to see the uptick in anti-homeless rhetoric. You hear them being called "zombies" and "not people".

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 53 points 1 month ago

And the Democrats, while not in favor of the camps, will gladly support them once the law has been passed

Because that's how government works!

[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

geordi-no militarized camps

geordi-yes holding facilities

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago
[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

This is probably it oooaaaaaaauhhh

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think they may just feel like "militarized" is problematic. They already don't have a problem with kids in cages, especially after the Biden admin changed the name and painted pretty murals on the facilities.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

It's called bipartisanship sweaty maybe if you redfash tankies learned about it you'd build power more successfully good-morning

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Historically, 79% of Republicans = 100% of Republican senators, and 22% of Democrats = ~80% of Democratic senators, so it sounds like this is on track to get Patriot Act numbers in Congress.

[-] roux@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

"Almost half of American adult children polled think we should use brown people as slaves and force them to live in cages."

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago

I always love when dems suddenly lose the concept of statistics or the concept of polling.

"Only 27% of the country voted for republicans last election so that means that 73% of the country supports democrats."

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[-] roux@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Somewhere on reddit, some dork is arguing that 5,352 people is not a good enough sample size.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

it literally isn't a good sample size, especially for their selection process in the breakdown of a place as diverse and varied in peoples and living conditions and environments like the US and its 350 million people. It's a religious-focused NGO for "christian nationalism in politics", has vanishingly few young people, does terrible breakdowns in the full report and tells us nothing about class or income, self-selects for those who are on consistent addresses in USPS lines with internet access who would be arsed to do these surveys (as well as has hundreds of self-selected opt-ins), the report is trash by a non-profit for "finding the intersection of religion and politics for clergy and the public"

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, it's actually an excellent sample size. This study is absolutely worrying because it was conducted well.

https://www.checkmarket.com/sample-size-calculator/

This is a sample size calculator,

Punching in 350M for population size, 2% margin of error, and 95% Confidence interval we get a necessary sample size of at least 2401, this study had a sample size of 5352

As for their margin of error, using the above population and confidence interval values but adding in 5352 for the actual sample size we get a calculated margin of error of 1.34%

This study is valid and its findings should worry everyone.

[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a perfectly good sample size, you're absolutely right, but @anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net raises good questions about whether it's an appropriately random sample.

Edit: They use weighting to put things closer to what the general population actually looks like, but here's what their unweighted numbers are:

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

Okay I see the criticism, but would the more honest title:

approximately 47% of Americans aged 30 and older believe immigrants should be put in militarized camps

really have changed the conclusions and implications?

It's fucking disgusting no matter how you look at it.

I suppose that number might go down to 30% at best if 18-29 year olds were properly sampled.

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[-] roux@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Ok I guess I'm a dummy lol. I was more just blowing off steam. I'm having a shitty mental health existence right now. Sorry.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Nope. You're original comment was correct. See my response to anarcho blinkinest

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[-] aaro@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago

yeah I'm in favor of putting immigrants in militarized camps - the kind where we give them military weapons and military training to defend themselves against the evil KKKracker menace

[-] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Well according to trump-anguish they already have "AK-47 Supers" that not even the US military could get their hands on, so we're already half way there! amerikkka

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

AK-47 Supers

Nvidia needs to cool it with these new GPU names

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"AK-47 Supers"

Where's your god now ammosexuals who frothingfash over an ar-15 being called "assault rifle 15"?

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Starting to feel like I just don't belong here

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 37 points 1 month ago

why should you leave, they're the ones that suck

[-] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

for me it's because I love trains and hate driving, and even the most pedestrian-friendly American cities are still car-centric

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

If I knew how to computer I would spend the rest of the day making office space emojis

[-] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Every day I wish there was a place that was willing to take me so I could gtfo of this place

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

The population of rome eventually emptied out to 1% of it's peak population during the roman empire's long decline. People either died or left. If and when it's possible, leaving is better.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Me, living in the only place within 40 miles of my workplace I can afford. yikes-1yikes-3

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

The "undocumented" part is mostly there as an ass-cover imo. Am I the only one perceiving a growing hostility towards even legal immigrants?

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

What do you think the push for denaturalization is for? They're not interested in the mask.

[-] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The fact that this headline even exists, that it's presented almost casually, is proof that barbarism is the future.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago

I can understand dems being down with the fascism, but look at my independents dawg.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 26 points 1 month ago

Most "independents" are "libertarians" and never Trump Republicans so it makes sense

[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago
[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Dems see this and go well we must put more kids in cages then

[-] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

I've met probably a dozen people who call themselves independent and when you get to know them they are indistinguishable from Maga dudes. I think it's a way for people who don't like being called racist/homophobic/ etc but fully support those policies to distance themselves.

[-] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago
[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

this was posted before, it's a 5000 person survey by a non-profit for "finding the intersection of religion in society for clergy and the public" (hence the weird religious breakdown), which they got by just emailing people on a USPS list with a few hundred self-selected opt-ins on top. Which also inherently excludes a bunch of people, like those who've moved a lot or recently, any and all homeless, lumpenized people and people in distant or ad-hoc or delapidated communities with vague USPS lines and addresses, those who don't have internet access, those in prisons, and those who don't check their email, and those who wouldn't be arsed with these kinds of surveys by religion-in-politics non-profits, and countless other groups. Inherently. The study also has no breakdowns for class or income, if they live in rural, urban, or suburban environs, or even generation breakdowns for most of the questions including this one (but does for some others, weirdly); and the 18-29 age group is vanishingly small compared to the others; and just a bunch of god awful things. Which is shocking to be taken at face value, this trash 5000 person "christian nationalism" survey as "percent of Americans" like the survey says. And then you get such god awful trash takes like in this thread of "if only I'd organized harder" absolutely anti-marxist nonsense, nihilist trash.

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[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

can we see the over all breakdown not by made up American political groups media outlets always categorize people into. The only reason to split it by political party is to make right-wingers seem more important or popular than they actually are.

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[-] Goblin@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

22% lmao. I know we know liberals are fash but goddamn that's so fucked lol

Facism is here-er

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