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That isn’t the plan you think it is. The US is an outlier in terms of granting birthright citizenship. Most countries - and particularly, most developed countries - do not do this.

[-] Rusty@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Canada, Mexico and a lot of South America countries do this.

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[-] spoopy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's actually unique to americas - older countries are less likely to do this.

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Americans posting memes against American Imperialism, while simultaneously having an American-Centric worldview about the world in regards to citizenship.

Ironic.

(No offense to OP 😉)

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[-] remon@ani.social 44 points 2 weeks ago

No need to go overseas, almost all countries with birthright citizenship are in the Americas.

[-] Kualdir@feddit.nl 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This only works if you go to the green countries:

Edit: Source

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

It's pretty telling about how much Americans know about other countries that the assumption is that Jus Soli is the norm.

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Kualdir@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago

What a chad move

[-] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 weeks ago

What if I go to the gray countries? Do I despawn?

[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago

You can't go there until the next expansion.

[-] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

Green: unlimited birthright citizenship Red: Limited birthright Citizenship Gray: (At least from my own country, Switzerland): No birthright citizenship

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

They have deathright citizenship. You automatically become a citizen if you die in their territory.

[-] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Chile would be good. It has a fairly strong passport, which I believe is stronger than the USA one in 2025 (before Trump), since it can still travel to the EU visa free.

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[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

Uh, very few countries have birthright only citizenship.

[-] placatedmayhem@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Here's the list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli#Unrestricted_jus_soli

If I'm counting correctly, 34 countries with unrestricted birthright citizenship, and 40 with restricted.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The better term might be "abroad", rather than "overseas". Because Jus Soli is a concept that exists mostly in the Americas. So you'd better not cross over the Atlantic or Pacific sea for this plan.

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

Well your kid won't get citizenship, but you'll be able to afford to birth them.

[-] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

Haha, that's not how it works outside the US.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

TIL the rest of the Americas don't exist

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[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

*for the most part.

Some places it does.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

As much as people are criticizing the proposed changes to this concept in the US, yes, this is true. In many countries that are arguably more free and democratic than the US even, this is not the way citizenship works and the post comes off as uninformed.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's a good era in which to not have children. Expect a lot of forsaken children.

Also expect some coerced birthing programs such as the Leibensborn program (which was also an excuse to recruit young women as sex slaves for the Schutzstaffel ) and the offspring were supported by the state and raised by the single mothers.

This is the program that inspired the Handmaid program in Margaret Atwood's Gilead, in A Handmaid's Tale

And J. D. Vance is super thirsty for it, as is countless other Freedom caucus and MAGA Republican officials.

ETA That said, it might be a good time to get sterilized and commit to not having kids. (That doesn't mean you won't have chances to parent)

[-] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Counterpoint:if all leftists don't have kids, then conservatives will end up as the entire next generation. Not to like say, definitely have kids, but anti kid propaganda only hurts us

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[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't work in most countries. Being stateless isn't very fun.

[-] Geodad@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

US citizenship comes from the mother, if born abroad. The baby would automatically be a US citizen, possibly have dual citizenship.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Most countries don't have birthright citizenship.

[-] Geodad@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, I’m just saying that the baby of a US woman would not be a stateless person if born in a country that doesn’t have it.

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[-] zxqwas@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

We don't recognize birthright citizenship. You'll have to fill in the paperwork like everyone else.

[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago

Is birth citizenship that common? Won't work here in Germany for example...

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Literally zero European countries do it. It seems to be in the Americas only, and Chad and Tanzania. The concept that this is some human right apparently only applies to he US.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that's because we had a whole thing of people claiming that people born enslaved weren't citizens or eligible to vote

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I'm curious what the difference between how America went about giving slaves citizenship versus countries in Europe. There's the obvious difference of birthright that's an issue today, just curious why America ended up here and Europe did not.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think at least some countries in Europe had a similar system as the US but moved to Restricted Birthright in the 80s because of freeloading - i.e. well off people with no connection to a country just flying over and having their kids there to give them citizenship in that country.

With Restricted Birthright the parents have to have been living in that country for a few years - so de facto being members of that society - to earn that right.

Personally I think it's fair that those comitted to participating in a Society all deserve the same rights (including local nationality for their children) independently of themselves having or not the local nationality, whilst those who are not comitted to participating in that Society do not, and "being resident in that country for more than X years" seems to me a pretty neutral and reasonably fair way to determine "comitted to participating in that country's Society".

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[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago

Do not do this. American passports are the easiest to exchange for another countries citizenship, but one of the hardest to get.

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone born to an American citizen is an American citizen, regardless of where it happens. Most foreign countries don't grant citizenship based on place of birth the way the US does, so if you go to Afroeurasia expecting to get a dual citizenship for your child, it's likely to fail, but they would still be an American.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 2 weeks ago

Imagine US citizens flying abroad to have anchor babies.

[-] Michal@programming.dev 12 points 2 weeks ago

And failing at it because most other countries don't have birthright citizenship 😂

[-] dickalan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Typical inaccurate American meme, fucking do better. Jesus fucking Christ.

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