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Also Libs please come tell me how I'm somehow wrong. Please explain how "doing literally nothing" is somehow resistance. Thanks.
For Libs, having the right attitude is victory enough
No actions, only vibes
Liberalism is not a defensible or serious ideology, it is literally zero action while feeling moral superiority.
It is a serious ideology for the ruling class, but it can offer nothing but platitudes for the working class.
It’s frustrating as fuck man.
The ideology of the ruling class haven't ever been able to offer the lower class anything better then some nebulous salvation for obedience (going to the paradise or pulling yourself by your bootstraps). The first step to combat the frustration is understanding that those promises are lies and have never been serious.
The thing that annoys me the most is that liberals will try to stifle positive change the entire time leftists are putting in the effort to do it, and then they will 20 years later claim that they were the ones making the positive change. It’s baffling and enraging and fuck them all to death.
Is the solution to the contradiction that we should fight right wing fascism in the United States and also support Ukraines defense against a Russian invasion?
No because it is an unwinnable war and those guns we keep sending them keep ending up in the hands of Nazi paramilitaries and not just in Ukraine. They have been found in the possession of Nazi groups elsewhere in europe already. The people in eastern Ukraine deserve self determination too and if they want to be part of the RF because their own government has been slaughtering them for going on 11 years now ever since the US backed fascist coup then so be it.
Who the fuck is supporting right wing fascism? Other than the Dems since they spent quite a lot of money both in 2016 and 2024 propping up far right wing candidates in local elections to prevent left wing candidates from being successful.
Who the fuck is supporting right wing fascism?
Most of America
I can't argue with that
Wait, you're telling me going out with a witty quote on a sign is "doing nothing"? 
Presumably it is because liberals are in denial about what is happening. (you asked for liberals, I'm only about 50% liberal, hope that take is good enough.)
Even people at protests are talking about “getting everything back in 2026” like there’s going to be elections by then. It would be cute if it wasn’t so sad.
I don't know to what extent the midterm elections can upset things in the united states. What probability would you assign to "there won't be meaningful midterms in 2026"?
85%-90% because red states aren’t going to flip anything, and I don’t think there are enough flippable seats to make a difference. I would be surprised, and even if they do get a razor thin majority, what will they do under a Trump presidency? They will claim, same as they do now, that there’s nothing they can do.
What did you mean by this:
like there’s going to be elections by then
Fascism has good reason to shut down free and fair elections. My prediction is based on if elections do occur.
What I meant to ask was, what is the probability you would assign to free and fair elections not happening. (Or would you consider the new ID requirements already so stringent that the elections can no longer be said to be fair?)
That’s a more difficult one as I don’t know what’s happening at all the state levels. I suspect there was already election tampering in the last election, and I believe that will be even easier now. There is also the factor of, as you said, more stringent laws regarding voting that will push out some people (and many more POCs will be disenfranchised than ever before), but I don’t know how many people that will affect. Then there’s the looming possibility that Trump will effectively stop elections by invoking martial law or something similar, because of things like mass demonstrations (I am feeling a bit more hopeful that this will happen, but not betting on it).
Overall I’m not confident enough that I understand all the facts to give a real percentage chance, and I think it also depends on how much the administration believes an election can harm them. What do you think?
I would imagine that free elections will be the last straw for most americans. I don't think Trump would risk everything on the midterms. 5% chance the midterms are rigged.
"Putler is le gay heh heh"
“Putler and Drumpf totally make out! And they’re guys!”
It's because the only thing they really believe in is white supremacy.
Black hole quote goes here.
Black hole lib, won’t you come
And vote away nothiiiiiing
Head like a hole! Black as your soul! I'd rather 
and cede all control!
Bow down before the rules and norms
You'll get bi-partisan reforms
"The Republicans may be fascists, but at least they're American fascists which makes them the lesser evil to foreigners. How else are we supposed to defeat foreigners halfway across the globe if we don't capitulate to domestic fascists?"
Strange how the positions change when it is someone else's children dying 🤔
Don’t people get tired of chasing ghosts? The libs don’t matter, they barely even fucking exist. It’s 2025
Like, there’s so much more pressing and interesting shit to talk about, right?
the hegemonic ideology of the world and the ideology of imperialism doesn't matter?
this entire website is collectively buttblasted by their experience growing up in 2010s suburban flyover mayoville America (to be fair can't be blamed for this)
They don't realize how much all the narratives have changed in just 4 years
they're like the immigrants who idolize their country of origin as some "trad paradise" when really everyone's doing the same american debauchery shit there too. People unironically living in 2017
I'm in this comment and I don't like it
we just watched Liberals commit genocide for 2 years. Seriously how do you libs keep coming back to "libs actually aren't that bad" when they just did a genocide in front of you
liberals do not exist
Liberalism is the dominant ideology of the world, the vast majority of people are Liberals. Every single politician in the United States is a Liberal, 100% of them. Billions of Liberals exist and espouse their Liberalism every day. You are on crack
I mean. This guy is joining the 3 plate club for benching and squatting. I’m getting my destroyed spine ready for the actual fight when it comes down to it. I’m getting back into fighting shape.
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