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this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2023
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I can't believe we're having this struggle session now involving 3 year old accounts?
How did they keep quiet this long and what made them lose this ability?
i know, im kinda wilding
earnestly waiting, i need to know what brainworms i have that will end with me being banned now
If I had to guess (not for you specifically, but hexbear in general), it would be tone indicators. The last big struggle session that I can think of was whether we should use tone indicators to accomodate neurodivergent people. It actually makes sense to use them in an online forum like this, even for neurotypical people because nuance is lost when one is just reading text straight up. However, I saw a lot of pushback on this sort of thing from users that would normally be all about the "hexbear party line" (so to speak) of things like vegan solidarity, trans solidarity and respecting pronouns, etc. And it's the same line of argumentation that people who were against meat content warnings were using ("what's the big deal?" etc.). So yeah perhaps that's the next frontier.
i already have to badger people to do spoiler tags and nsfw tags properly for trauma related content, that is gonna take ages to catch on
i do usually use emojis as a tone indicator a lot of times though 🤔 thats probably not very reliable for a lot of neurodivergent people but maybe some emojis could be made to ease adoption, would have to inform people on hover texts
Shush you're never allowed to leave. I won't let you.
what is this, a hotel in california?
Huh, I had no idea, what's the message of Hotel California?
I had always taken the lyrics to be about a loss of innocence that comes with working in the California entertainment industry. It's all glamorous from the outside but within the residents have become deranged and exploitative.
WHAT?
For fuck sakes there ain't no good boomer song
Wtf I didn't interpret it that way at all lmao, I thought it was a funny joke about California having nice weather or something which made you not want to leave
I'm too innocent
That seems like a stretch. I highly doubt public mental health facilities have ever been synonymous with intoxicating opulence.
Kicking a lot of mentally ill people out onto the streets was an atrocity, no argument from me there.
I'm arguing that Hotel California being about mental hospitals doesn't make sense. There are so many lines that run counter to that interpretation:
The . . . intake nurse?
Even if the staff can afford some luxuries, it doesn't seem like something they'd discuss with a patient.
Said nobody about an inpatient mental health facility ever
A hazard and contraband that would be immediately removed
And the part that might work,
really only half works. The "never leave" part works, sure, it was involuntary hospitalization, but how can you explain "check out any time you like?" Letting patients fake a check-out just seems like torture.
I always thought it was about drug addiction, specifically in the music industry, which lines up a bit more with the things you pointed out imo. And I heard that checking out was a euphemism for suicide.
I don't see how he was being pendantic? He was just analyzing the song lyrics to point to another interpretation
Or, he could be neurodivergent and tends to take things literally. Just because someone interprets something different than you (particularly something as subjective as song lyrics) doesn't mean you have to go straight to insults.
I'm sorry if I came off as aggressive, it wasn't intended that way. I myself have been accused of being pedantic about things because of my autistic perspective, but I can agree that being pedantic isn't inherently a neurodivergent thing, I was just trying to give a different perspective. I do have to disagree that saying someone is being "reddit-level pedantic" is comparable to someone saying something doesn't make sense, though.
I'm pissed off, but unsurprised. I've been seeing this same shit throughout the western white left since I became a leftist.
A lot of these people have been saying the same things for years, if they weren't being transphobic or making jokes about pumpkin spice lattes the mods just let them be and so did the user base
Is this the same struggle season regarding the kkkrakkkers in the thread about not being able to be racist against whites, or is this a different - if thematically similar- struggle session?
In the end, there is only one long struggle session, the neck back to which all the heads of the struggle session hydra can be traced: outdoor cats, cracker racism, veganism, you name it, they all trace back to the very same root, the struggle against posting.
ive been on my "stop pretending that the proletariat is homogeneous" grind for years, I just thought that with the kkkrakkker struggle session it would be a good time to shoot another shot on my new account