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The 45+ crowd will vote for him because they support isn'treal and are afraid of Drumpf but I think we're going to see a massive drop out of young voters. Probably too with the people who already don't vote to begin with, namely service workers who are fucked over either way with D's and R's.

And here I thought Biden was going to win in November, time to eat crow.

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[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 100 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden forever courting the 5% of Republicans who will maybe vote for him instead of going after younger people who would like to vote Democrat if they weren't such shitheads. "Nothing will fundamentally change."

The only wildcard is how some states had big turnout to protect abortion rights, like Ohio. Which will probably still go red cause it's a shithole state but maybe other states will be blue.

[-] ta00000@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago

"but the young people don't vote!"

I wonder why that might be soviet-hmm

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago

"we offered nothing different or substantial and they seem to not like us! wtf!"

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 4 months ago

we also do nothing to make it easier to vote, or stop gop from targeting ways the youth votes

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

It's literally worse than that.

"We actively explicitly told them we don't care about their concerns and we will not compromise with them at all, and also if they don't support us because of that it's because they're selfish and dumb." That's democrats literal message to young people.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"They're not smart enough to know they should vote liberal"

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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

"Young people today want to complain about how bad they have it. Give me a break. No I'm serious, I have no sympathy."

Gee I wonder why the person who said that at a campaign event might have a hard time with youth support.

And if you bring this up liberals just link you a snopes article that says it's false that he said it and the first line of the article is "ok he did literally say those words in that order and it isn't out of context but he didn't mean it like that."

[-] ta00000@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-no-empathy/

You weren't lying. Wouldn't have gone for the "you have so much social progress compared to my day" argument if I was
A. Born into wealth as a white man, and
B. Was a segregationist at the time.
But go off I guess

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

Yup that one and the snopes article saying it's false Biden tripped going up the stairs to air force one, he just "briefly lost his balance and fell forward" are super handy to have on hand if anybody ever tries to claim snopes is anything other than an explicit propoganda asset for the democratic party.

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago

I'm very curious about the impact of abortion since it's clearly hugely significant to people and yet the Democratic party has shown and continues to show they have no interest in acting on it on a federal level.

I'm not even sure they have interest acting on a state level since everything I've seen has been ballot initiatives.

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The only states where the presidential vote matters are “battleground” states.

Only states that have abortion on the ballot are where abortion will be a significant political issue.

As of now, there’s only 1 state that ticks both of those boxes (Arizona). So in terms of the presidential election, it’s only really relevant there. And tbh, the way the polling seems now, it looks like Arizona will make abortion legal but vote for Trump.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

Arizona will make abortion legal but vote for Trump.

a-little-trolling

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Yet another opportunity to immediatly lock this election up and instead they send out Joe to stammer through a statement about how he doesn't personally support it and "doesn't believe in the whole my body my choice thing"

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

I know. It's ridiculous that most people still consider the Democratic party to be pro choice in any sort of meaningful sense.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

It's like when liberals say "one party wants to give everybody healthcare"

Oh really? Which party is that? Because the only thing I've ever seen democrats competently resist was universal Healthcare and in 2016 the dem candidate literally compared working for universal Healthcare to "promising everyone a pony"

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