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Yeah I made c/savedyouaclick in the hope of getting people de-clickbaiting stories, but I was the only poster afaict. I wonder if calling it newssummararies could help.
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Oh I'd be up to help if I could
Maybe a link or two a day
I'll also contribute a wank or two a day.
Thank you for your service
For what, cutting down?
Nah that community name is fine, it just needs to be promoted. Someone else linked some communities where it can be advertised.
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I don't click those any more. I assume they're completely written by AI and not fact-checked in any way. They just suck knowledge out of me instead of adding more.
Exactly. If the headline is garbage, I assume the story is, too. Real journalism that’s worth reading doesn’t need to resort to clickbait.
No other choice than sticking with the few reputable media that still don't do that. Gotta support them so they don't fall into that too.
Sometimes the articles themselves are fine, and it’s just the editorial department that adds the sensational headlines. I don’t know if it’s worth throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
If the marketing has the power to go over the journalism to change the titles, isn't it a symptom that things are going downward for this media?
Haven't the titles always been traditionally written by someone other that the articles author?
As long as journalism quality is respected that's not an issue.
While we're at it, does anyone on Lemmy hate capitalism? I never see anyone mention it.
And that Trump guy is really not turning out well.
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Whenever people ask this question, I do this one thing.
NPR and the BBC still aren't doing that.
- I think the Associated Press is in the clear here.
- Seems Reuters so far is good too.
- And The Guardian
- Mother Jones
- ProPublica
- Ars Technica for tech news
- The Conversation (always written by subject-matter experts)
- Deutsche Welle
- Etc.
Thankfully there are still a lot of amazing news sources that have held onto their integrity. Click here to see even more. Number 17 will surprise you!
That's a very good list. I just threw out the first couple that came to mind, but it is worth calling out the organizations that are still trying to do real journalism.
I give small sustaining donations to NPR, ProPublica, and The Guardian. I hope to add a few more when I can.
There’s something I hate more than clickbaity headlines, click here to find out!!
I hate them. I hate that everything is always trying to sell you something or trick you into generating profit somehow. It makes me want to burn down a bank.
it's infuriating
Readers hate this one simple trick -- Do this every day!
MAN THREATENS TO NOT READ NEWS ANYMORE over clickbaity headlines
I miss objective news in general
Everything has a spin on it, even if it's subtle
It’s the news that Starship Troopers and Idiocracy both parodied. Except it’s not future fantasy, it’s real and here now.
It’s not new, it’s just adapted to the media format.
Getting people to read the news and the ads between articles is how the game is designed.
Journalism classes has always educated this.
If you had been an adult during a decade or two before the Internet you would know that a headline used to sum up the basics of a story. For example, picking a random 1980s headline: "Six US embassy aides escape from Iran". Nowadays that would be more like, "US admits Iran plot."
I took some journalism classes in the 90’s (and then decided it wasn’t for me), and my SO was a journalist around the same time.
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Well played. You got me to click.
Could have social media websites
like us
have some system for selecting, maybe voting on, alternative titles.
Nice idea - I remember on reddit some subs had a rule that required exact source headlines only, no user-written version. Lemmy doesn't seem to have that restriction.
!News@lemmy.world is very similar on that rule. I don't like it because I've had many links removed when I wanted to give a bit more context or the title is total click bait.
It would be better if they allowed for clarification in brackets or something after the original title.
Yeah, it's got advantages and drawbacks. /r/Europe had a fairly-strict implementation. It's helpful to avoid people editorializing titles, which was definitely originally a problem there, and for some reason, I've rarely run into here.
However, it hits a couple problems:
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Some publications have titles that are totally reasonable in the context of a reader of the publication, but which are unreasonable if you're just skimming titles from many publications on a social media website. I remember people complaining about some title in a publication aimed at US Navy personnel, and people on /r/Europe complaining that it didn't explicitly say which country it was talking about in the headline, which was talking about "the Army" or something like that.
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A bunch of publications stick their name on the titles of their page, which is just obnoxious when social media websites tend to also show the domain name of submissions.
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I see a lot of headlines with mis-escaped HTML ISO entities.
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Sometimes it's not immediately clear why a given story is relevant to the community. For example, maybe you're on, oh, a community that deals with books. An article comes out titled "Trump tariff policy gets additional executive order updating policy". In the context of the specific community, you might really want to know the fact up-front that the issue is that one of the items in the order is either books are excluded from tariffs or that there's a global 200% tariff.
The Threadiverse does let one attach some text to a submitted article, which both partly brings back the issue with editorialization (if I'm putting anything that'd be potentially-controversial, I try to put it in a top-level comment rather than the submission text), but can let one do some of the "context-information-providing" stuff. But that's not subject to community correction; only the submitter can deal with it. And it doesn't show up in the list of articles, just when viewing the comment page for an article.
I'm not annoyed by them (I simply don't read them, why would I want to waste my time?), I'm saddened by them.
Edit: that's also the reason why I read so few newspapers/periodicals. And why I pay for them. I want to support quality work.
Everybody has always been annoyed by them. Since before computers existed; newspaper headlines were the original clickbait and it's always sucked.
Yes, but this has been the case for many years now.
For the past 10 years
It was wild for a while, then scaled back and not it's re-emerging with a vengance. It's really annoying, and it's spreading to social media. It was getting crazy on reddit, where people have gone back to literally ending titles with "And then this happened"(actually using the word "this" instead of a real descriptor).
No, it is only you who are annoyed at this.
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