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[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 63 points 11 months ago

I hate, hate, hate the phrase "housing reform". It's not the housing that needs reforming you fucks. We don't need to gut safety standards to the bone and kill even more people so the poor landleeches can make more money and escape responsibility, we don't need micro-homes made out of shipping containers, we don't need special home loans for minority business owners who own and operate a successful business for 3 years in an underprivileged community.

It's a way of smuggling in lowering the quality of life with ridiculously small living spaces that aren't adequately insulated or connected to utilities, lowering safety standards as in here, lowering already low accountability for slumlords. Anyone who utters this is an enemy of humanity.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 40 points 11 months ago

geordi-no Housing reform

geordi-yes mao-shining Land reform

[-] supplier@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

Honestly. Who tf honestly believes "developers" would take the savings from a single stairwell per building and turn it into more housing? Anyone who's rented an apartment can tell you they'll just line their fat fucking pockets

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

It's not about cost savings, it has to do with the architecture and floorplanning that can be severely limited by these standards. It's a large enough effect that is worth discussing, but I am not well read enough to outline the whole situation here.

[-] FettermansFinalStroke@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

Not to be that guy but there is some validity to this. Having multiple staircases makes it almost impossible to have units that are more than 1 bed 1 bath or studios, keeping families from moving into higher density housing. Here is a very good video on this.

(Vox journalists are still the most annoying people)

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

I was literally going to respond with that MildCuthbert tweet and you beat me to it! But it's true, I hate the neoliberal dumbasses at Vox so much.

[-] regul@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

They're unnecessary.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

Pictured: Two developers talk about housing reform as a fire marshall looks on

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 11 months ago

I wish I had a staircase down from my balcony here in Europe

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago

There's only the fire stairs where I live. I don't understand why you would need another set of stairs considering everyone just uses the elevator.

[-] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Because if that stairwell gets blocked by fire there is no way out.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

But the second one has something different to stop the same problem from occuring? Or is it just the fact that there are two?

[-] Runcible@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

It's just the fact that there are two. Redundancy is an incredibly common (and valuable) approach with safety critical features

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Maybe I'm built different, but I would simply not be prevented from evacuating an emergency situation

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 1 points 11 months ago

smuglord I would simply ~noclip on my way out of the building

[-] Muinteoir_Saoirse@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

Are you being purposefully obtuse? The point being that if there is only one point of exit in an emergency then you are more likely to get into a situation where that exit is blocked. if there are two exits than it is more likely that at least one of the exits is safe to use.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

It's recommended not to use an elevator if there is a fire, power could get cut or the car stuck from damage related to fire and you could get trapped.

[-] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Yes, that's why there's the fire stairs

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