Y'all this one is simple.
Legally, yes.
Physically (for supernatural reasons), no.
Y'all this one is simple.
Legally, yes.
Physically (for supernatural reasons), no.
This is the answer I choose to accept.
“Can I enter your home to arrest you?”
“I don’t know officer squints eyes ..can you?”
What if they're serving an eviction notice and it's no longer your home?
Legally? Yes. Physically? No.
I think the vampire physically could enter because the warrant is basically allowing them to enter a space they otherwise would need express permission from the person that dwells there. I haven't known a cop otherwise to serve the warrant and then just stand awkwardly waiting for permission to enter afterwards. If we are to believe that vampires exist in this context and follow "traditional" rules, you best believe a vampire could be in any given profession, especially because night work is more prevalent than ever. There would certainly be a vampire cop who works at night and takes advantage of the way warrants work.
Vampires are older than property law, I think the power that keeps them out comes from physically dwelling in the place. As long as they're still living there, regardless of what a judge decided, it's their home as far as a vampire is concerned. Otherwise they could just ask each other for permission to enter someone else's house. I'm trying to remember if this came up in Buffy...
What if they are renting?
I think hearth magic doesn't work that way. When you live somewhere and set up a presence, it becomes your domain. A warrant doesn't take that away from you. You need permission to travel safely into someone's domain.
Kicks down the door with his non-vampire partner who enters first .... non-vampire steps inside the building and tells his vampire friend to come in
I see you too have played in a World of Darkness game. 😜
We are all playing in a World of Darkness game on this glorious day.
The power that repels the vampire is supposedly god, which is supposedly stronger than the US Gov (citation needed) meaning no.
However a good question is what exactly is a home and does it need to be sanctified? Can a Vampire enter a graveyard blessed by a cardinal when a groundskeeper lives on the far side?
Being as that god is typically considered to be the Christian God, then the dogmatic principle of, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" should come into play, at least in the western world. Their invitation is from the true owner of the home, the state, which supersedes the current occupants authority as, "all nations are created by God".
However there may be some concept of primacy of house and home that in God's eyes turns out to be more important than the political societal contract we live under that has an exemption for protection from evil supernatural entities, as otherwise a long-lived vampire could simply manipulate the population to get themselves elected as a ruler and cause the citizens to lose one of their fundamental protections from the denizens of the night.
That being said, most law-abiding homeowners would probably permit the entry based on the existence of the warrant by default, so it's likely a moot point.
Police don't typically execute search warrants alone. If I knew that specific policeman was a vampire I would address his partner(s) individually and invite them in, but I would not invite the vampire. Explaining to them why he was staying outside would be his problem.
In this same vein, if a vamp-cop's partner entered the home, then invited the vamp-cop in, would the vamp-cop be able to enter then?
Only the people living there can invite a vampire in.
But what if I trust the vampire cop more than the cop? At least the vampire cop admits he's a bloodsucker.
Must be dumb friends. The answer is no.
A warrant isn't permission from the owner, or anyone inside the house.
but it's a cop so likely won't be following the rules even for a vampire
Lol, well you have a point there.
Cops don't follow rules because there's no one enforcing them. Vampires can't enter homes because god stops them from doing so. So even a cop vampire would need to follow this rule or be turned to ash for not being a Gentleman.
I know, I know. It's a joke and all. I just felt the need to add context on why these rules exist and why their not just arbitrary laws that vampires can just chose to ignore.
yeah i just thought it would be funny to think cops would ignore even supernatural laws because they're just that shitty
You know, maybe Vimes had a point.
Yes, you agreed to the Terms of Service (aka Social Contract). For people in the USA, that includes the 4th amendment, which explicitly allows law enforcement (living or semi-living) to enter with a warrant. Therefore you have granted permission to enter.
If they don't have a warrant, or if they messed up the paperwork somehow, then they burst into flame.
Permission isn’t an invitation. They need to be invited in, not have permission to enter.
Can a vampire not break and enter? Would an invitation work if they were out of town and needed the vampire to cat sit for a weekend? Does you being in the house have an effect on the invitation or it deed based? How are renters handled? So many questions!
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I don't know about that. So, if they ask, "can I come in?" and you say, "Yes." then they still can't come in?
No. The vampire is bound by a supernatural barrier not even the likes of Dracula can defy. Otherwise Dracula would be a judge to issue warrants for his fellow vampire officers.
I actually think you've just described the current political climate in the US.
A job doesn't change or define what you are. A vampire would not be able to enter.
that depends on the setting you're writing.
I think it would be more interesting to instead say yes or no, and then explain why it's that way in your setting.
if yes, perhaps the law is magic in its own right, or perhaps the state is ordained by god. If the vampire is a protagonist, then perhaps the story might be interestes in exploring the necessity of due process and the consequences of not doing that.
If no, perhaps it is because the police are a corrupt institution lacking support of any higher supernatural power. Our vampire cop might feel forced to use increasing sinister methods of gaining entry to suspects homes.
The answer could even be different depending on location, and showing the difference could be very interesting.
He can come in. I eat garlic regularly 😆
My wife asked me this just this week! I said that it would depend on how far the vampire is 'removed' from vampires "tradition". As in, if they were a more recent conversion, maybe more archaic methods like legalistic language wouldn't be enough and a vampire cop could enter with just a warrant. But I think an older vampire-cop who would be more bound by whatever lore suits the trespassing curse/stigma, would still be unable to enter your home without your express permission. Its about domain, not so much ownership.
That wouldn't stop him.
At least if the MF is already like this on a flat surface.
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