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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

The research is pretty consistent that Transfats are worse for your health, if only due to correlation with high processed factory made meats, though.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

This guy should learn to view science more like a constructivist. Pretty much everything in science is just something we made up that mostly aligns with the natural world, and just because one model is less accurate than another does not mean it's no longer useful.

We didn't abandon Newtonion physics when Einstein's model was accepted for instance, since Newtonian physics is still very useful, and much easier to use compared to others.

Edit: changed language from 'proven' to 'accepted'.

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I mean, it's a shit post about how nutrition science is hard and full of misinformation.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago

We didn’t abandon Newtonion physics when we accepted Einstein’s model ~~was proven~~

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 hours ago

That's fair. Language changed for accuracy.

[-] 7toed@midwest.social 2 points 13 hours ago

Well did I miss hearing that someone has proven Einstein?

[-] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

That depends on what you mean by proven.

Time dilation is easily measured and it's essential for things like GPS to adjust for it. And we finally got that picture of a black hole recently where you can see the light from behind the black hole wrapping around. I think it was Sagittarius A*?

[-] MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago

I wasn't familiar with the term, but I always (until this moment) assumed that everybody viewed science that way.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Not so. There are those that believe objectivism is the true way of viewing the world. They view that we are on the way to understanding the universe as it truly is, that human perception will not pose an obstacle to that pursuit, and that there will eventually be one true method of viewing the universe in its entirety that is yet to be discovered. Constructivist beliefs directly oppose that idea, since all science is a man-made construct that can only approximate reality in their view. Constructivism also, then, leaves room for multiple theories coexisting because they provide better utility and insights in different circumstances. In the example of Einstein's Relativity vs Newton's Physics, we are talking about an older theory and the theory which usurped it because it was more accurate, and the general expectation is that another theory will be accepted down the line which will be better than both. That expectation is fairly objectivist, since it assumes there is a true model which we just haven't discovered yet. Constructivism does not make that assumption, since the universe likely does not fit neatly into our constructions in its image.

The other thing, is that constructivism challenges scientific realism to some extent, in that it challenges the existence of many things which we cannot directly observe, such as quarks, proteins, particles, etc... because "how can we actually confirm these things exist, when we physically can't observe them, and the things we're using to show their existence are constructs made up by us?"

This topic is still very much in a state of debate that has very strong implications around the philosophy of how science works and how it should be conducted. That's also just talking about constructivism's implications in the physical sciences. Things get much hairier when you start looking at the social sciences, where biases and perception are extremely influential on what we discover. Constructivism directly challenges the attainability of scientific objectivity, which has serious implications across all fields of science.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 14 hours ago

The amount of people who think that scientists don't understand how bees fly is evidence that most people don't have this world view. As if someone would see a bee flying, not only having been around for eons, but a very common creature most people are familiar with, would just throw their hands up and say "WHOA! THIS VIOLATES ALL THE LAWS OF PHYSICS! THIS SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE!"

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

this sounds like the kinda thing that I (uneducated in this topic) would go "heh.. yeah.." and upvote not understanding the joke

then I open comments and it's actually about tossing toddlers into a volcano and I am immediately sentenced with the guilt of upvoting a meme about child volcano sacrifice and I have to come to terms about how I am a horrible person who will blindly follow someones agenda because they were using big words and I am actually incredibly foolish and don't deserve an opinion about anything ever..

or it's just an extremely nerdy joke that nobody really understands but upvotes anyways

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Same.

I was like oh it makes sense that there would be different types of protein. Here I go into the comments to increase the fidelity of my mental model! rofl guess not

[-] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 20 hours ago

no you were right the first time

[-] breecher@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 day ago

This reads more like an anti-science meme. Things are complex, if you don't understand them fine, but keeping yourself deliberately ignorant isn't going to stop reality from being reality.

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 3 points 15 hours ago

Maybe he's got a finer point, but it actually just looks like an argument against categorization. It's like saying I don't trust math about "triangles" or "scalene triangles" or "rhombuses" when you find out about the special properties of the equilateral triangle or the square.

The fact that there are differences between elements of a category does not eliminate the utility of the commonalities shared by elements of a category. It does limit that utility, yes.

For example, just because you are getting plenty of protein, if you somehow completely avoid one of the amino acids that the human body uses but can't synthesize, then eventually you will have some fairly specific health problems. That's not strong evidence that it's worth micromanaging your macronutrients by tracking your intake of all amino acids individually. (It might be; I haven't seen it studies either way.)

Maybe I'm missing some context, but I also get the "anti-science" vibe from the image.

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I think it's a shit post about how he's been reading into the science and it is just way more complicated than what most people talk about.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 day ago

It is, this guy is a known fraud and all-round bad dude

[-] blarghly@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

By who?

Everything I've heard about big yud is that he's a bit of a douchebag with a cult of personality. Never heard he's anti science, or that he's done anything wrong.

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 1 day ago

I literally thought this was a parody/sarcasm when I posted it lmfao.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

Understandable

this is borderline.

there's a point where we can argue that the US has shit standards for food safety. and there's arguing that chemicals names are scary.

plus, he's a bit of a weirdo with the Rocco's Basilisk and his weird harry potter fanfiction

[-] juliebean@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

i assure you, there is much weirder harry potter fanfiction out there. i once read a Hogwarts Castle/Giant Squid smut fic.

Also, pretty sure a fellow named Roko came up with the basilisk, not Yudkowsky.

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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago

My standard response to that kind of statement is 'Good for you. Have a cookie.'

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 17 hours ago

My standard response is I would like to know more

[-] KingCake_Baby@lemmy.world 84 points 2 days ago

Sugar manufacturers lobbied for fats to take the blame for all of the serious health issues people have had in the last 60 years

[-] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 14 points 1 day ago

I know in my case, cutting sugar and simple carbs has done more than cutting fats.

[-] Ameripol@lemmy.world 102 points 2 days ago

Is this the same guy who wrote the Harry Potter Rationalism fan-fic and started the ai worshipping cult?

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago

that ai cult also doubles as a get smart quick scheme

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yeah all while ~~being a high school dropout~~ he never went to high school

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go back to your harry potter fan fiction

[-] Mainwave@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Downvoted for Yud. Ice this clown out.

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