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[-] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 125 points 1 year ago

even with all borders removed ireland still isn't reunified

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

They dug out the border to fill it with water. The northern moat they call it

[-] jdf038@mander.xyz 22 points 1 year ago

Time traveling Ira songs intensify

[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

This map was brought to you by Britain, the great!

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[-] Seraph@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

At the same time, 1491, you can do a map of horses in North America with the same result!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago
[-] Seraph@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Interesting! Wonder how that would've changed early American cultures if they hadn't died off?

[-] weariedfae@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hey, just a little FYI but humans were in North America before the horse went extinct* so they likely did have some interaction with ancient cultures.

_* From what I gather there is heated debate as to whether the domesticated horse that was brought back to North America is truly non-native. I'm not a paleontologist nor phylogeneticist so I can't speak to any of that.

Thanks, I read it as 1941 and thought it was something about ww2

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

And avocado.

All the good things that end in O

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Even Spaghetti-Os. Can't have those without the tomato sauce.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Those are banned in Europe. Thankfully.

There's some contraband here and there, but the food police is on the case.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

It's amazing that we can recreate this map with such accuracy!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wait until you see the map of the Americas before 1492 with the shredded wheat/oatmeal divide.

[-] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 14 points 1 year ago

Please explain meme for us who aren't this well versed in history

It's a meta meme. There are a few popular memes out there showing the divide between "Potato Europe" and "Tomato Europe"

But this one is showing neither because it predates their arrival in Europe, I guess.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago

finally, Ireland is made whole

[-] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Potato and tomato were native to the American continent.

[-] BrudderAaron@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

But how did Italians make their pizzas? :(

[-] Skua@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Youtuber Max Miller did an episode on ancient pizza in which he attempts to recreate a Roman pizza based on a fresco from Pompeii and a poem usually attributed to Virgil. He went with cheese, dates, pomegranate seeds, and a sauce similar to pesto. Which honestly sounds great to me

[-] RandomStickman@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

This makes me think that ancient Romans would absolutely put pineapples on pizza if they had access to them

[-] Skua@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

They were the real barbarians all along

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If I wasn't allergic to pomegranate, I'd try to make that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

They probably used peppers.

[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Aren’t peppers native to America too

[-] atyaz@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

I think I missed the joke

[-] alienzx@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Flammkuchen

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[-] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Neither existed in Europe back then. I'm not sure if there is another reference to that exact date I'm missing

[-] loboaureo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

América was discovered by Colon in 1492 and bring the first potato and tomato seeds to Europe

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure he didn't discover it, what with people having lived there for tens of thousands of years.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I discovered a new restaurant last week. It's been around for decades but it was new to me. I can't remember the first time I tasted a tomato or potato, but to the Europeans it must have been amazing! And don't forget chocolate!

You are correct about the thriving and ancient civilizations in the "New World" of course. Getting olives and oranges and figs, even horses, doesn't feel like enough compensation for what happened to them...

[-] lugal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I never got this semitic discussion. I can discover a cabin in a forest or a store in a city but Columbus can't discover a continent because he wasn't the first one who discovered it?

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

As far as I care, "discovered" is in relation to cartography, at which point most societies know of it and its location.

Anything else is just pathetic semantics that could go back through evolution and the chronology of Earth's continents and geography. No one wants that except a couple of Actually Guys.

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[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

This would have more merit if he ever set foot in North America. He landed in the Bahamas. It’s technically part of the North American tectonic plate, but so is part of Iceland.

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[-] loboaureo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The gravity was there from the beginning of time, but Newton discovered it.

English is not my first language but as long as you specify for who, you can use discover, like "I discovered this movie last year, it's my new favorite movie since then' and the movie was published 40 years ago.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Do potato grow from seeds? I thought they just grew from other potato.

[-] loboaureo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, you are right , he brings potatoes and tomatoes seeds, not potatoes seeds and tomatoes seeds

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

They can be, they're nightshades so they make little tomato-like berries which contain seeds. Usually people just replant potatoes instead because it's easier and they grow faster.

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[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I thought it was discovered by ship

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

poo if by sea

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Italy didn't have tomatoes in the 1490's? 🤔

What did they put on the pasta back then?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

While being totally wrong because it wasn't called Alfredo at the time and wouldn't be until like 1930s, they did often put oil, herbs, and cheese on pasta before the popularity of the tomato so you are still correct.

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