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"Blocking Traffic" pretty much the same as "Rioting".
Lmao.
I'm sorry, but the carbrain is terminal, there's nothing we can do.
Live, eat, sleep, die in the ~~pod~~ car
Well there's one thing we can do 
This one really gets me. Had an arguement with a irl lib friend during the George Floyd protests. They were like, "they need to be peaceful like MLK, not blocking traffic." MLK blocked traffic!!! What are you talking about!!!
they would have hated MLK too if they had been around back then
Of course, libs hate living revolutionaries, but dead ones don't do inconvenient things like support oppressed people or criticize oppressive power structures. Or as Lenin put it:
During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.
It's worth noting that (as Lenin notes here) it's not just liberals, it's the oppressing classes. See the conservative rehabilitation of MLK as a moderate who actually thinks there's no such thing as systemic racism.
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MLK was constantly tarred for inciting riots (even when he didn't), for inciting property damages (which he didn't), for his followers being rude or destructive (even when they mostly weren't), and just generally painted as a violent, uppity ****** in his time
Fucking idiots
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I find it funnier that some people think blocking traffic is more acceptable than burning a flag. Blocking traffic is at least a major inconvenience, burning a flag literally doesn't affect you in any way.
Noooooooo burning the flag will make the founding slaveowners and white jesus sad noooooooooooooooo 
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Car brained freaks
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>blocking traffic is the #3 worst thing anyone can possibly do
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to be fair, almost everything on this list is extraordinarily tame and nonthreatening to power
That's why it's on the list at all. Limit the definition of political action to the most inert things and relegate everything else to obscurity. Make change or the actions required for a better world unthinkable.
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people do really think this way. I was incredibly close to getting ran over by a fascist in a truck at one of the George Floyd uprising protests in my city and I had several liberal ex-friends tell me it was my fault for blocking the road.
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people need to be blocking traffic for shits and gigs. Just walking to the grocery store and take your sweet time in the cross walk. The public space should be for people
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I'd love to see this stacked up with an identical poll except instead of asking what is acceptable or not, ask what is effective or not. I don't think even libs are dumb enough to think any of the acceptable things are actually effective. It'd be a real telling chart.
counterpoint: yes they are that dumb. they keep telling us to VOTE despite the fact that the people they want us to vote for can't do anything.
I dunno, usually when I press them on that they agree it's not that effective but then they double down on "it's the only tool we have" and "it's better than nothing." I think they know, I just think they don't care enough to actually do anything differently.
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i want to meet with the 5% that think creating a petition is "unacceptable"
It’s me, because killing a politician is much more acceptable.
Maybe they think that doing anything but 
is undemocratic/undermines institutions or something.
Or maybe they're an ancap and think that the only way is to shoot a mctactical nuke into the privatized former public service.
or a weirdo postmodernist "actually petitions legitimize the state by creating a discourse that implies they listen to the citizens which makes them an oppressive form of biopower."
6 % of people think it is unacceptable to call your representative. Half of those think it is not just usually, but always unacceptable.
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See also:
36% of Americans support US airstrikes that explicitly kill civilians
51% of Americans support ICE raids against illegal immigrants
52% of Americans support US strikes in Mexico to fight the cartel
53% of Americans support stand your ground laws
55% of Americans support the death penalty
58% of Americans support drone strikes in general
65% of Americans have a favorable view of the CIA
82% of Americans oppose defunding the police
94% of Americans support the troops
Real pacifist crowds you got there
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They forgot to mention the most effective type of protest: 
One man, one 
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"Feel free to protest, just not in a way that makes my life more difficult. Or in my line of sight. Or on TV. In fact, protest somewhere over there where no one can see or hear you. That's always enacted change!"
I don’t see guillotine the rich on this survey.
we found the one good lemmee user folks
burning an American flag
It's my flag I'll do what I want
occupying public spaces
human domestication is real its just normal neoliberal privatization
I wanna hear out the guys who think creating a petition is always unacceptable.
That was me. I used to be really into petition signing. Never did anything. Never got a follow up saying anything worked. The stuff I looked up myself failed. Never again. Miss me with that nerd shit. Unacceptable.
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Yea I’m a free speech absolutist (checking always acceptable to everything)
The 3% that say rioting is always acceptable and the 2.5% that creating a petition is always unacceptable. lol
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If it makes y'all feel any better this was a really poorly administered and unscientific poll.
Sample size of 1000, based on people who responded to an e-mail, more than half of the respondents were over 45, more people over 65 than under 30. (Also apparently more Trump voters than Biden voters?)
I do think this is SOMEWHAT representative of the American mind but keep this shit in mind as well.
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Judging by the graph maybe 5-10% of the US are OK people.
Thanks YouGov! An ordered list of tactics from least to most effective
I really want to meet someone who thinks that signing a petition is dangerous extremism (actually maybe I don't)
I consider petitions to be an unacceptable form of protest.
Most people are into protests
They say they aren’t until the protest starts
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"Burning an amerikan flag" at #4 and "blocking traffic" at #3 really says it all.
Deeply diseased country.
ie, we only support forms of protest that have never achieved anything in all of history
I did a survey too. It's just this survey but replace the word "unacceptable" with "most effective"
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