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Israelis ink the memory of deadly attacks onto their skin | Reuters

EILAT, Israel, Oct 19 (Reuters) - The date Oct. 7 will be forever etched in Israeli history, marking the day Hamas gunmen rampaged through southern communities, killing 1,400 people, in the country's deadliest attack since its founding in 1948.

Now, many Israelis are getting the date tattooed on their bodies to commemorate the dead and missing, and bear witness to the collective tragedy.

"It was a very difficult date for the whole state of Israel, including for those who weren't in the affected areas," said tattoo artist Roey Benezri-Levy, who works in the seaside resort of Eilat, far from where Hamas attacked.

"Some people choose to tattoo images that remind them of their home, the family, or the people kidnapped, in one way or another," he said. "Many of them write the date, October 7. We all understand what that means."

University student Gal Nishman got a tattoo on his back in black and blue ink combining a Star of David with the numerals 7/10.

"The truth is I don't know anyone who was murdered, fortunately ... but the tattoo for me is a symbol," he said. "On one side (the tattoo) is dark, representing those who were captured. On the other, there is blue, the Star of David, Israel, (showing) that we're here to win."

Benezri-Levy said clients had found solace in the experience. "Many folks told me it lifted a heavy weight off their hearts. It brought out feelings I haven't felt before. It gave me a lot of strength, a lot of hope," he said.

Another tattoo artist, Sheli Eliel, has also been busy since the attacks in her studio in Magan Michael, some 400 km (250 miles) north of Eilat, on the Mediterranean coast.

"It's therapeutic," she said. "I never asked questions before, but during the tattooing, the stories come out, they share them and cry. It is quite amazing," she said.

Among those seeking to commemorate recent events was Hadas Karmazin, a resident from the south, close to the border of the Gaza Strip, controlled by Hamas, who has been evacuated from her home as Israeli forces gather ahead of a possible invasion.

She had three stars inked close to her heart to represent her three sons, two of whom are in combat units while the third is set to enlist this month.

She also had a large lotus flower tattooed on her forearm, saying it represented Israeli residents of the south. "It grows with glory and flourishes even in murky water, especially in murky water," she said. "Despite everything I will return home."

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[-] blashork@hexbear.net 83 points 1 year ago

After using my religion as a cover for their genocidal colonial project, they simultaneously broke one of it's laws and trivialized the holocaust.

Like not only is this a weird fucked up brainworms thing, but also getting tattoos is explicitly prohibited in judaism.

Anywyas, I hope they all have some white phosphorus backfire on them and it burns their skin so thoroughly no one can recognize their corpses let alone any tattoos on them.

palestine-strong palestine-heart

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

getting tattoos is explicitly prohibited in judaism

Israel has a lot of secular Jewish people that are still generally ethno-nationalist supremacists. Even Netanyahu was raised secular, oddly enough. So you have atheist and agnostic Jews that don't even believe in the Holy Land shit but still support a Jewish homeland on the basis of "Jewish identity" and lebensraum propaganda they've been fed their whole lives

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

not surprising since Netanyahu grew up in Philadelphia

[-] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Nationalist projects often sit pretty uncomfortably with the traditions they subsume, sometimes being more or less outright hostile to them.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

The religion is just a cover for bloodlines, as evidenced by their treatment of Ethiopian Jews.

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah it's plain white supremacy. White Ashkenazi Jewish settlers also massively discriminated against the Mizrahi Jewish minority that already lived in Palestine

For example, Mizrahi Jews were segregated from the European Jewish settlers, and a lot of them had to change their last names to Ashkenazi names to avoid overt racism. Zionist leaders described Mizrahis as "faceless dust" and "human material," and "on the same cultural level as the Arab Fellahin (peasants)"

https://matzpen.org/english/2008-07-10/zionism-and-oriental-jews-dialectic-of-exploitation-and-co-optation/

You can also find horrifically racist comments about Mizrahi Jews from Ben Gurion, Israel's first prime minister

[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Can confirm. For what it's worth, Tel Aviv is actually somewhat chill. But it's like the California of Israel: just the LEAST bad part of a horrifying monster.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

The truth is I don't know anyone who was murdered

internet-delenda-est

[-] Crowtee_Robot@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

I feel like I'm genuinely losing my mind.

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Same. The Internet is basically unusable right now. I'm just glad I don't work with anyone who talks about this

[-] sourquincelog@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

Getting 25/6/1876 tattooed on my knuckles to remember all the brave cavalrymen who died in Custer's folly

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[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

That's literally cutting flesh for the dead. What?

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a religious scholar or well versed in Judaism but aren't there restrictions on tattoos?

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Leviticus 19:28: Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Some Jewish cemeteries won't let you be buried there if you have tattoos. Obviously depends on how strict the cemetery/burial society is but it's not unheard of, though I'd imagine they make exceptions for Holocaust survivors.

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[-] operacion_ogro@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Americans seeing the tattoo: What happened on July 10, dude?

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they visit the US in a place that's hot like NYC in the summertime - they'll soon wear long sleeve shirts so they don't get any more questions. They might even have to buy some overly warm shirts being that every time an American asks them that question - they rage.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

It saves some inglourious basterd the trouble of reminding people which side they were on.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine being Jewish and tattooing a string of numbers on that part of your arm.

Also if you tattooed every atrocity Israel has committed against Palestine onto your arm there would not be enough space to list them all.

Privileged ethnostate bullshit.

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Rapidly approaching Ukrainian cringepost levels

[-] blight@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago
[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

what i can't fathom about this affair is how they're characterizing it as uniquely threatening & scary for Israel... the six-day war? yom-kippur war? y'know, times the actual full armed forces of neighboring countries fought them? with more IDF casualties even? these (presumably young) people's parents fought tanks and jet aircraft where are they getting off thinking a small-arms razzia is unfathomable violence?

is Israel just America, with no sense of history whatsoever or what?

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

razzia

I googled that. Good word.

Israel just America

Israel has gone mask off. Israelis seem to have entirely forgotten they live in a tiny country and there isn't a big ocean separating it from its enemies. When apologists for Israel or IDF spokesmen or Israeli pols have spoken I've only listened to a minute or two here or there. I can't stand to hear them go on and on. But it seems to be that they all sound the same. And it's far beyond the usual "Israel has a right to defend itself." They aren't saying that "Israel has a right to slaughter and commit ethnic cleansing but it's pretty clear that's what they want. Their conception of international diplomacy is that Israel gets to do whatever it want.

Once Israel's ground war starts - for a while they'll keep calling it an "incursion" even though it's clearly a ground war. And then I don't think they'll even try to hide their glee once civilians are in the crossfire. They'll cheer the slaughter and they'll say "This is Hamas's war and they are responsible," or "Civilians die in war," or "I'm sorry to say this. This is war. This is what happens."

And once it's clear that ethnic cleansing is happening they'll say stuff like "Israel must do this. Israel has no choice." They will decide on a preferred euphemism for ethnic cleansing. Annexation? Whatever the substitute word - they'll say the same sort of stuff about that too: "Israel must do this. Israel has no choice."

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Good word

found it was a less pretentious way to say chevauchée

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I'm American and I don't know a more common, single word for razzia. As a substitute all I can think of is phrases like "cause death and destruction". I don't like the word "raid" because it's so vague and can be milder sounding euphemism for killing and r*pe.

The problem is that Americans hate words they don't know so I can only use razzia a few places - like here. Using it at reddit would only annoy me because I'd get "Well, actually..." comments that it's a historical word referring to slaves or redditors would tell me they don't know the word, they won't google. Fine, you own me by being proudly ignorant. I'm so owned.

Anyway - once Israel starts its ground war - I better not talk online at big sites because that will make me a crazy person and words won't mean anything there anyway.

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[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

haha is this a humiliation fetish thing

I know when my settler-colonial project in which I'm heavily invested gets profoundly humiliated on an international stage, I want to be reminded of that every time I look at my forearm

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Wake up babe, new person getting "fuck off Russian warship" tattooed just dropped

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Using this as the minimum requirement, Palestinians are going around like the main character in Memento

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[-] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

knock knock

who's there?

07/10oct/2023

07/10oct/2023 who?

YOU SAID YOU'D NEVER FORGET

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

They want to be oppressed sooooo badly

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

could get a pretty sick paramotor tattoo with the same date on it

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[-] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

We need some Xavier Renegade Angel emotes.

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[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Canada will be able to use these to decide which ex-settlers are fascistic enough to grant citizenship after they flee Palestine.

[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

I can’t say exactly why but something about this gave me a very profound sense of dread about how ugly this will all get before it gets any better

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Whatever they say I think any Israeli who does this inking their body to commemorate what they want to be their total victory over Gaza (and beyond)? In their bloodthristiness - they are commemorating the slaughter by Israel that hasn't even happened yet.

[-] Donald_Drumpfler@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

not even using the Hebrew calendar I see kombucha-disgust

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Word.

I'm Jewish and even though I'm an atheist I know it's the year 57-something-something. [Ninja edit: I hope I got the century right.]

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Also - this amuses the hell out of me - https://hexbear.net/comment/4127531

[-] Donald_Drumpfler@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I know it's the year 57-something-something

honestly way cooler than this 2000s shit we keep hearing every day also thinking that I'm actually living in the year 5763 makes me feel even older

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

thinking that I'm actually living in the year 5763 makes me feel even older

It's ok comrade you're living in juche 112 and you're in your prime kim-peace

[-] buh@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

710, hell yeah stalin-smokin

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

This is real sicko shit. I really hope it's a profound historical forgetting because the alternatives are all worse.

[-] glans@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

d.mm.yyyy what a perverse way to write a date.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Day/month/year makes more sense that month/day/year

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Year/month/day gang stays winning

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[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Smallest to largest ways to measure time.

Although, I prefer to do it like 20/April/1969 that way there's no ambiguity

[-] Flaps@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

As pathetic as the warren-snake fans who tattood that colour number as if they were holocaust survivors

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