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I noticed people started to use the idea of “no ethical consumption under capitalism” to just be completely irresponsible and just stop trying at all. I don’t think the point of that is to give up completely lol

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 74 points 9 months ago

Solidarity

Libs just use this to mean sympathy without any of the underlying class consciousness that really means "your suffering is mine and this unifies us"

Intersectionality

Libs just use this as a way to play oppression Olympics and rank everyone according to their intersecting identities, rather than using it to try to understand how they intersect.

[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

Turning intersectionality into a weird pseudo phrenology

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Queerphobes fuckin love their pseudo phrenology

[-] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 73 points 9 months ago

abolish the police -> defund the police -> reform the police -> fund the police

[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

I got whiplash from how fast that one changed in 2020

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 66 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I saw someone accuse leftists of being "reactionary," as if the term means "one who reacts." Thankfully I don't think they've really picked up on that term yet.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago

"reactionary," as if the term means "one who reacts."

Liberals actually think that it's what it means. Political education is intentionally non-existent.

[-] johnmccainstumor@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Does that make us actionary?

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[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago

That one is not just libs, it's extremely widespread. I think the process is people use "reactionary" instead of "reactive", because longer word = smarter.

[-] Zezzy@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

angery every pathfinder 1e character being a Reactionary because some writer making that mistake on one of the most useful traits

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[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 63 points 9 months ago

"Eat the rich" and anything related to it. Literally saw some fucker say it and then specifically excuse landlords from it because they're "middlemen"

mao-shining

[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

anyone who says “eat the rich” anymore is one hundred percent a lib

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago

Middlemen for who? The buck pretty much stops there.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For the banks financing the house?

I wouldn't call them middlemen, I would say the banks are just a third-party to the renter-rentee relationship which is direct exploitation. The banks are also exploiting, but in different ways, they're exploiting their low level processor employees and bank tellers and the like in their own employer-employee relationship. If they are charging usurious rates on the mortgage, they are exploiting the lender-lendee relationship with the landlord. These are all separate examples of exploitation, but we believe all the exploitations should be stopped not just 2 of 3.

Also middlemen in exploitative relationships aren't a good thing. "Cut out the middlemen" is still good practice under communism if they aren't contributing anything. A hitman is just a "middleman" in the relationship between the victim and the one buying the hitman service. Doesn't mean hitmen shouldn't be abolished just like purchasing hitmen.

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[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

yeah, they're in the middle of me and my paycheck

[-] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago

"Mutual aid". Liberals use it to mean "charity" or worse, "subscribe to my patreon so I can keep posting".

[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

I’ve seen the same with “organizing”

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[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 47 points 9 months ago
[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 44 points 9 months ago

You want universal healthcare? Can’t do that. Sounds like a tankie thing to say.

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

You think Isreal vaporizing children is bad? God, you're such a fucking tankie.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

Tankie is when you don't want to send tanks into ukraine

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

They use "tankie" because they don't like to think that anyone could be to the left of them. The libs who call themselves leftists but support NATO and oppose protests that interrupt their morning commute are the ones that use tankie the MOST

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[-] WitchHazel@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 9 months ago

I kinda got pretty fuckin sad when this happened because like

It does pertain to some very specific kinds of leftists, generally the ones who are uneducated and authoritarian. But now it just gets used as a prejorative for any leftist who is willing to match rightwing violence with leftwing violence.

Like, if you just let right wingers do violence because "freeze peach" and you constantly hamper left wingers' actions, you cannot expect any other outcome than the right wing seizing control in an authoritarian manner.

There is only one cure for fascism, and that's armor-penetrating rounds. That being said, you can obviously take action without your little armalite at your side, but at this point it really should be disruptive.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Was always a chauvinist left-punching term from day one. Wasn't "co-opted" so much as "went viral for its intended purpose"

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

yes, I do want to send in military force to crush anti-semitic pogroms in Hungary. I am literally the worst person politically, ever

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[-] stevatoo@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Free Palestine (from Hamas)

I haven't heard it that often so maybe people are actually rooting the liberals out before they take hold.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 42 points 9 months ago

"Cultural Appropriation"

"Grassroots"

Basically all of Therapy-speak being applied on a political level (calling your enemies "Narcissists", etc.).

[-] LeopardShepherd@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Oh my lord applying individual psychology speak to nations/states drives me crazy. Not a thing leftists do so they haven't co-opted it. If I have to hear the language of domestic abuse or trauma counselling or whatever the fuck applied to countries and geopolitics one more time I will explode.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ah, not true the post-modernist left did in fact apply psychological terms to entire societies. Specifically, schizophrenia if I remember correctly from Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari. Lacan also loved mixing psychology and sociology.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism_and_Schizophrenia

Not the greatest fan of these works, but at least they are being specific and academic in their usage and have psychological training. Modern libs are bastardizing even that.

Also I think it's much more valid to point towards a society as a whole as a social organism, and attempt to apply similar mental conditions to see if it makes any sense - at least in an academic thought experiment type of way, I don't think it has much explanatory power personally. However, libs instead just say "Trump is a narcissist. Putin is a sociopath. Kim Jong Un is a psychopath." etc. which is much more of an issue as they're just armchair psychologizing other people without any formal training whatsoever in order to smear political opponents. It's chauvinist, it's ableist, it's straight charlatanism

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[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oldie, but "a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character". Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was effectively talking about a post-socialist revolution where serious reparations were made and society was equalised in meaningful ways that would allow the world to be both fairer and more meritocratic.

Libs say it means addressing historic injustice is evil and that now the most explicit mentions of race are out of written law and addressed nothing else, Dr King would 100% approve of modern America.

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

“Acknowledgement” that turned from a good faith recognition of unearned power, comfort, or stability but became a rote “land acknowledgement” or “privilege check”

[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

No I’m pretty sure enough acknowledgement turns into money and homes for the people being acknowledged

[-] thebartermyth@hexbear.net 38 points 9 months ago

"Emotional Labor" losing the work context meets this imo. Definitely very frustrating.

[-] BeanBoy@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago

Ya people complaining that being a decent friend and listening to other people vent sometimes is too much “emotional labor” is some kind of expression of some terrible process of neoliberalism and atomization

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[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Colonialism, genocide, and imperialism. The savages scraping shit off the boots of NATO with their tongues will look at you with their shit filled mouths and unironically say “we must protect xyz from abc imperialism”

However, there's also another reason that most people probably aren't thinking of. I become unreasonably irritated whenever I see someone post some stupid baby talk shit like "They're doing a genocide" or "they're being genocided" or "stop doing an imperialism." Sometimes their views even align with mine, yet I want to dropkick them to hell for invoking millennial pupper talk for this topic. If you're learning English, that's completely reasonable to write - but if the only language you speak is english then illegal-to-say

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago

That Lenin quote about supporting electoralism that libs selectively cited to make him sound as if he would have supported voting for Biden. Of course, they always left out the part where he specified voting for communist parties.

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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago

ACAB when the definition of cops becomes "anyone who seeks to enforce standards or act in defence".

"Become ungovernable" as a slogan that occasionally gets used to justify wrecker behaviour and self-serving egotistic actions.

I guess these two are interrelated but imagine if you said something blatantly racist in a less-than principled leftist space but you strategically deployed the slogans "ACAB" against the people calling you out and used "become ungovernable" as a justification for your actions; you could easily split a movement by doing something like this.

To a lesser extent, "it is right to rebel" gets used for the same sorts of purposes. It's divorced from its cultural and historical context; China around Mao's era was very hierarchical and society was very strictly centred around "conformity" (using shorthand here, don't come at me). Under these circumstances, it was absolutely right to rebel and exhorting people to rebel was the correct course.

That doesn't mean that it's somehow a tacit endorsement of contemporary western liberal hyper-individualism though. If anything the western left needs a good dose of "Shut the fuck up and learn how to fall in line because your petty bickering and your blind adherence to knee-jerk, cultish individualism is a major roadblock to advancing the cause of socialism".

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

"speak truth to power"

"based"

"let him cook"

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[-] Raebxeh@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

Happened really fast with enshittification. It describes a particular capitalist process based on specific circumstances and people just use it to mean “when things get worse”

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[-] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 20 points 9 months ago

"There is no ethical consumption under capitalism" OKAY DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO BE BOUGING OUT ON T-BONES BUTTHOLE

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

Not sure if this counts, but you know all the "SJWs" from 2012? Yeah, a lot of them were fascist sleeper agents. IMC, Cadence Owens, the sinfest guy, Lena Dunham, are all four examples of "SJWs" that quickly and conveniently went crying to the right about being 'alienated'.

[-] Melina@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Hitting myself on the head with one of those plastic baby hammers that makes a squeak

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

Labor Theory of Value. I don't know how common it is, but I've seen people using it to justify killing someone who stole something from you, because "you bought it with hours of your work".

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

In fairness this stems from leftist misinterprtations of the LTV which mix up exchange and use value and fail to nail down "Socially necessary". The genius of marx is that he shows that the folk conception of value is several different things, and that Marginalist interpretations conflate these things to maintain the supremacy of capital.

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