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[-] Astrealix@lemmy.world 130 points 8 months ago

I read "brutish" as "british" on first glance

[-] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 8 months ago

More often than not that has been the case :)

[-] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Much less often than not, by a colossal margin. They did have a good run, though.

[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Same, and I was like well if the shoe fits...

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[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I can't find any differences

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Which surprisingly does not change the meaning as much, as one would think it would.

[-] dave@feddit.uk 10 points 8 months ago

If you ever need to check, this site has up to date information. https://arethebritsatitagain.org

[-] femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

Are the brits a tit again

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 84 points 8 months ago

This feels dangerously close to some EnlightenedCentrism nonse

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 62 points 8 months ago

I'm not sure whether the version of this I saw previously was the original and this post was cropped, or if this post is the original and the other text was added later. But I much prefer the context here:

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Ahh see this I can get behind, reminds me of the Soviet anti alcohol poster that's become a meme too

Good original intent, less good modern applications

The dawn of nationalism was definitely the mistake of the previous age I think. Peoples should be able to self govern autonomously, but not under a guise of "the nation" which inherently forms an out group to be excluded.

I like the Arabic/American way to do it, "You wanna be one of us? Well then you're already half way there!"

I speak very little Arabic but my teacher has told me that I already know enough to get the long list cousin's welcome among most L1 speakers lol.

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 49 points 8 months ago

Yeah i've learned not to trust this kind of simmetrical worldview, even when it makes me feel smart for being above it.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What if instead of taking it as saying all things are symmetrical we take it to mean that we have a tendency to consider outsiders to be "savage" or simply "other" even when the evidence doesn't support that? Then this shitpost would be more like a warning against xenophobia.

You chose an interpretation you didn't like just so you could dismiss it. And you don't think your goal in doing so is to feel intellectually superior? You're another.

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[-] Abucketofpuppies@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Hmmm it's almost as if politics and ethics are very nuanced and one answer is never correct in every situation..

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 8 months ago

One side thinks the answer is "do fascism", so I think it may be fair to conclude that one of the proposed answers is at least wrong in every situation.

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[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 33 points 8 months ago

It is quite literally implying "both sides actually same!"

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

It's addressing the concept of demonization, a la Israel and Palestine. It's via these mechanisms that other people are dehumanized.

Not Karen v Karen at the pta meeting.

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[-] FatTony@lemm.ee 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I feel like the artist originally wanted to make this primarily medieval themed. But then realisied "Oh yeah, news and stuff are a thing." And then just added laptops and antennas.

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

It’s been added on to. The original didn’t have the radio towers or “time out” area

[-] howrar@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Someone shared a different version that doesn't have those newer stuff. That might've been the original.

https://lemmy.ca/comment/7948433

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

The font is slightly different as well

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[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago

Are there disinformation campaigns from the EU targeting the russian population?

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

No but englightened centralism means facts don't matter.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I see this as more anti-nationalism than any kind of centrism.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 8 months ago

If there isn't, they need to step up their shit.

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[-] Rakudjo@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago
[-] brown567@sh.itjust.works 25 points 8 months ago

I think about this whenever I see legislative efforts to "prevent disinformation" XD

I hate disinformation as much as the next guy, but we gotta be careful who we give charte blanche to censor information XD

[-] goldenbough@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

PURPLE GOOD YELLOW BAD 😤😤

[-] ItsAFake@lemmus.org 14 points 8 months ago

Typical sense of entitlement from a purple, they're all the same, that primitive purple brain can't comprehend other light waves exist.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's worth pointing out that the two opposing countries / nations / city states in this cartoon would have to have similar governments with similar charters, and similar selection processes for their representatives.

It is lunacy to say things like "Obummer was a dictator!" when he was selected twice by people voting, and then peaceably left the office after his two terms completely in line with the Constitution.

Now can you say the same thing about, for instance, Putin?

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[-] x4740N@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

What I get from this image is that one side will call the other side evil while the other side will do the same

It's best to look at the actions of a person or group rather than what they state they are doing

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[-] Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 months ago

More moronic both sides shit?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Class: Say the line, Bart!

Bart: This is whataboutism

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 points 8 months ago

Nation-states were a bad idea

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Alternatives?

I see 2:

  • full hegemonic domination of one nation state where everyone gets their basics met. Star trek style.

  • intense local tribalism where you're doing a whole lot more defending your land than you are now

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Or maybe there’s a dozen alternatives that could work better and both of us are staring at this from the bottom of a pro-hierarchy well that we’ve been stuck in ever since one guy convinced another one he should be in charge.

I don’t have a full solution, I just want us to be flexible enough to figure one (or more) out.

“The international ideal unites the human race”

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

There is a reason the Geneva Convention (and the Hague protocols before it) prohibit assassination. That reason is that the Glorious Leader and the Wicked Despot have more in common with each other than they do with us peons. Don't anyone get too excited during our "war" (population reduction, economic stimulus package, domestic troubles distraction). Invest in defense contractors, the elite will keep them fed.

Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.

True, and you also have to remember that many of them have it ingrained in their culture to hate enough to kill gays, other religious people, races, etc.

Despite how much people love to say one culture isn't better than any other... There absolutely are if you're looking through a lens of equality. Particularly if you've grown up in a more westernized nation where non-perfect progress has been made on those points.

Let's just hope the west doesn't continue turning into Yallqaeda and all the lost Fascists suddenly earn a Herman Cain award.

[-] bfaliszek@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Make Purple Great Again!

[-] thantik@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Rule of the world. The most violent ape gets to continue his lineage. To continue to pretend that we're more than violent apes is naive.

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Come on, you know that creatures who evolved the capacity for linguistic communication adapted to external forces with more than just greater and greater violence. We're not whispering cobras. We're creatures that demand community. The reason we even feel emotions like shame and love is to bond us together as a tribe for greater protection.

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[-] Rebels_Droppin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

"Shogun" tackles this really well.

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