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Please insert disc 2 to blame DEI for the bridge collapse.

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[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 70 points 7 months ago

I read about the fascinating feedback loop mechanism with the show Fox & Friends. The show is a constant stream of culture war outrage, “can you believe they’re doing this!?”, five minutes of outrage about it, “next up,” rinse and repeat.

However, after the episodes air they monitor social media, blogs, YouTubers, streamers, to see which outrage stories they aired are picking up steam and which aren’t kicking up dust. The latter, they drop those like a rock, they will not bring them up again. The former, those they will harp on and amp up for months or years.

So yeah, the right is getting their outrage cues from conservative media. But it’s less, they dutifully get programmed by conservative media, more like conservative media throws as many flavors of slop at them until they find the ones that makes the piggies oink.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

share that read!

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 63 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

CRT!

Swaps chip, blows on cartridge

DEI!

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 48 points 7 months ago

Transphobia is such a lazy re-skin of homophobia

[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

Pallet swap

mario-dance luigi-dance

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago
[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago

"Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion"

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

Eventually they're going to just come up with another LGBT acronym

[-] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

I don't know how I feel about knowing this. Did the cons make this up or co-opt it?

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They took the term from corpos that use DEI "policies" as a way to make themselves look good to libs.

[-] Des@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

and they believe this is why capitalism is broken

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[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

It's been kicked into cultural consciousness lately by (among other things) melon-musk publicly worrying that because there are black pilots and doctors, it must mean that DEI is lowering the standards for pilots and doctors, so wokeness is literally killing people. It's not even subtle racism.

[-] taiphlosion@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 7 months ago

They don't even know what those words mean

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 52 points 7 months ago

It's always so obvious when somebody teaches them a new word.

Especially when the talking points are the same.

A year ago it would have been CRT's fault that black people work in Baltimore but now the existence of black people is the fault of DEI.

It's deffinitly not just that they have a problem with black people and are clumsily assigning acronyms to their racism.

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

'woke' has almost fully taken over from 'PC'

[-] whatup@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Did you know that if you switch the E and the I in DEI, it spells Die? Pretty telling if you ask the people from my hometown on Facebook.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

Follow the clues people!

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

No that’s German for “the.”

[-] whatup@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Oh my God, it’s worse than they thought. Nazi communists. In DEI. Killing…babies. Joe Biden is declaring America socialist tomorrow.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

it spells Die

Of course, it's the Germans again!

[-] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

The fact I’ve actually heard this from two family members.

[-] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I think this is not true. NPC rhetoric originated with right-wingers; google "I support the current thing" for a distillation. Essentially their argument is that the left cares about a lot of things, and therefore it doesn't care about any of them, people are just conformists and not thinking for themselves, etc. Communists reject this: we have a coherent framework of looking at the world, our position on individual struggles (labor, racism, queer liberation, colonialism, whatever) is informed by that, and so we can have strong beliefs about many issues that are a reflection of our strong central beliefs. Apply the same logic to our enemies.

Conservatives who move, for instance, from hating gay people to hating trans people didn't have a chip swapped out in their heads. They want to maintain patriarchy and oppose any attempts to loosen the straightjacket. They may variously oppose "CRT", "DEI", "ESG"; "PC culture" or "wokeness"; all those oppositions are the same impulse to keep capitalism chugging away to benefit the guys at the top.

There are some funny exceptions in the form of post-hoc rationalization, like how the evangelical groups only began opposing abortion on religious grounds after they realized that legalizing it threatened to undermine patriarchy. But for the most part, any heavy consumer of right-wing social media, conservative activist, or politician has or is coalescing a fairly consistent worldview and we can't beat them if we incorrectly think they're morons.

[-] InappropriateEmote@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

I agree with almost all of this, but I don't think most of it contradicts OP's premise (so long as we remove the word "literal" from the title). Like:

all those oppositions are the same impulse to keep capitalism chugging away to benefit the guys at the top.

Right. And each of them could be swapped out depending on whether or not they are convenient for capital to oppose or support at any given moment, with the issue of evangelicals and abortion that you pointed out being the perfect example of this in general, not an exception.

But for the most part, any heavy consumer of right-wing social media, conservative activist, or politician has or is coalescing a fairly consistent worldview and we can't beat them if we incorrectly think they're morons.

First of all, I would agree that their worldview can be called consistent in that it is comprised of positions that will always tend towards support for capital, the status quo, and existing hierarchical power structures. But that's a different thing from being inconsistent in terms of hypocrisy or what we might call "internal consistency," like not being totally contradictory. Example, claiming to stand for keeping politics out of games while holding up something like Call of Duty as being apolitical. Or referring to people who care about equality as being "special snowflakes" even as they themselves whinge and blubber about the oppression of whatever group they tie to their sense of identity (invariably the most privileged groups like white, cis-hetero, men, gamers, etc.) It's these kind of culture war issues that are the chips that can be swapped out that I think SFS was talking about and he is right.

Their political positions are not based on any kind of analysis or fundamental principles, but instead shift along with the status quo, which does change over time due to things like technology, even if the overarching deference to the owning class never changes in a capitalist society. These are politics of convenience in a way that communist politics are most definitely not. Maybe it's just semantics, but I would say right wing culture war politics are not arbitrary, but that they are inconistent.

Also, I don't think it's really accurate to lump the rank and file chuds (the larger mass of right wing social media) in with the politicians as a singular class with the same interests that align in support of capital. There are those that get the ball rolling and steer the culture war issues and those that unfortunately will just follow along and be outraged by whatever the fox news or youtube alt-right algorithm or evangelical church tells them is outrageous. Like has been pointed out before, many working class people who identify as right wing do correctly recognize there is something really fucking wrong with this shit society, but they are manipulated into looking in the exact opposite direction of where the problem actually lies. The capitalist class, in part via politicians, are the ones doing the manipulation after having murdered and demonized the left. I think it's fair to say that there are some people who hold and program the chips in OP's analogy, able to cynically swap them in and out to benefit their own ends, but a much larger set of people whose brains are the targets for those chips and who have been trained to accept the swapping without question.

[-] buh@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Their political positions are not based on any kind of analysis or fundamental principles, but instead shift along with the status quo, which does change over time due to things like technology, even if the overarching deference to the owning class never changes in a capitalist society. These are politics of convenience in a way that communist politics are most definitely not. Maybe it's just semantics, but I would say right wing culture war politics are not arbitrary, but that they are inconistent.

I've noticed this too, and it's funny because the whole basis of the "NPC support current thing" meme is supposed to be that leftists only hold they opinions they do for social acceptance, while you can see examples of chuds adjusting their opinions depending on who they're talking to. The most common one I've seen is how opinions on climate change will range from "it's not real" when with other hogs, to "it might be real but it's not worth worrying about since this happened at other points in earth's history*, and do you really think humans are significant enough to be a factor?" when around non-political types, to "it's real and human activity is a factor but it's too late so why bother" when around people who have the scientific knowledge to understand and have strong opinions on it.

*this argument works on people who aren't knowledgeable or invested in the topic since it's technically true, but records show the magnitude of changes we've seen in the last century usually take place over thousands of years

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[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 7 months ago

They also focused on calling their opponents "NPCs" as a way to completely dehumanise them, treat them like a mindless character in a video game that it is ok to torment and attack because their suffering isn't "real."

At its core, this is a meme about dehumanising people different from us, treating them as mindless and disposable and I don't think it's something we should encourage.

yeah. especially toxic to us since we're supposed to be fighting for the working class, not writing them off as drones. structurally the 1/3 or so of the working class that's been sucked into this has been bribed; as we start racking up working-class wins they'll start coming around.

[-] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

And it's all meant to keep the left on the defensive and stoop to even entertain their arguments.

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[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago

I'm here to defend PS1 memory cards and physical hardware. I don't know what side of the culture war this puts me on.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago

Makes you bourgeois, I'm sorry trans-sad

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

What if we will collectively own and manufacture the memory cards.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

That's a good idea

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

If it doesn't have this, it's not my revolution

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

The bridge collapsed because the shipping company was woke (they didn't have big boobs on the ship)

[-] jayWL@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago

boobs have high buoyancy so the ship would float better, wokeness destroyed

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A picture of some big ole boobs in the rear view mirror of the ship before the collision would have made the captain of the ship hit the brakes faster, avoiding disaster.

Liberals will deny this.

[-] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

This is the true reason ships always had mermaids and shit on the front. I forget the term for those decorated poles.

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[-] Owl@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

how big of boobs would it have taken to cushion the impact to a safe level?

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

Very large ones awooga

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

Communism is like a gameshark

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago

Wish for unlimited ammo to use on the bourgeois.

[-] nemoTheCatfish@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

imma turn on godmode and go absolutely nutty

[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 29 points 7 months ago

The right and the libs.

It takes two to tango.

[-] asg101@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

Divide and conquer has never failed for the ruling class. Keep the proletariat at each others' throats and we won't slit the oligarchs' throats.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

All the same.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago

Snake a second plane just hit the twin towers! Quick swap to disc 2 to blame black people!

Argh OTACON!

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[-] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

Sweet Baby worked on the bridge

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

It's been like this since the cold war. They're always on the lookout for the next thing to be mad at, which isn't unexpected, because conservatives definitionally exist to be mad at whatever is new. It's kinda funny that they don't understand this about themselves.

[-] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

Every accusation is a confession

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