My mom is one of these hateful MAGAts, but loves the "nice Mexican lady" that cleans her apartment for such a reasonable price.

Don't worry, they have enough cognitive dissonance to not be bothered by this in the least.

They still can vote then, so no. I'd prefer change over lightly satisfying thoughts.

I don't want them being assholes to even more people.

Funny for us, maybe. I wouldn't want to inflict them on the poor immigrant workers though. There's only so much hate crime a 90 year old man can get up to but by gee by golly he's gonna put the effort into it.

I've never seen any math that disproved that. Now if you're looking at actual federal income tax paid, maybe, but social security tax is based on income, it doesn't get reduced by often fraudulent deductions and credits. So a lot more income is taxable under social security tax than federal income tax which is laden with loopholes and complexities. So when Jeff Bezos in 2007 paid $0 in income tax, he likely would have paid tens or hundreds of millions in Social Security tax if there wasn't a cap, because he did have income. Of course, we aren't legally able to get the actual numbers because of privacy laws, but there have been some leaks recently if you want to see some of the numbers.

That's why abortion has been under fire for decades and contraceptives are next, which i bet wil make the Korean 4b movement explode here.

Which then begs the question of will we back off cause birth rates are generally unaffected but with less "for fun" sex or go full handmaids tale.

Maybe we shouldn’t have the idea of a dead end job in the first place. Almost all work should be valid and provide livable wages. There shouldn’t be a class of jobs “just for kids”. As if their time is less valuable anyways. This is a super late stage capitalist viewpoint.

It's the same shit with offshoring. They do it because they can pay people less.

It's always fucked with me.

Because no, no human is worth less than others based on geographic location or local economy or where you came from originally.

If you're educated enough to do the same job as a US citizen, and you're working for a company based in the US, you should get equivalent pay to your US counterparts. You're not worth less as a human because you're from a different area.

It's fucking disgusting, I've thought it was disgusting my whole life. It's nothing but exploitation.

It hurts people in the USA by driving down wages and it hurts people internationally because these companies pat themselves on the back for "lifting up" these people and economies when the real reason they're doing is they're cheap fucking bastards. If they really wanted to lift up those economies, they'd pay people equivalent US wages in the local currency.

If that means you make a society of local millionaires overnight, oh well. This whole paying people less because their local economy is smaller is fuckstupid hateful hurtful bullshit.

See also: how orchard owners don't pay minimum wage to harvest, they pay "by the tree" to skirt minimum wage laws.

Yes exactly, thank you.

How about a wealth tax for people with over $10 million dollars of assets

How about tripling the size of the IRS (or more) so that the government actually gets what it’s supposed to

How about cutting foreign defense spending

How about increasing the corporate tax rate even just a little bit

Or only paying social security to people who need it

Or getting rid of insanely wasteful farm subsidies

But yes, I think we actually agree, that people who come here need to be paid a fair wage. That was really my point. When people talk about immigration to fix labor shortages, they almost always mean minimum wage or thereabouts (or even lower like for farm workers).

My mom spent 6 months giving her mother around the clock care before my grandmother died. Afterwards, my mom told me to put her ass in a care facility if she ever needed care like that. I said okay, but didn't tell her that I had already planned on doing that.