Remakes are always okay because they're completely new games based on old ones. It's like a theater group doing a play their own way.

Where this conversation gets confused is in the difference between remake/remaster

Additionally FF7 should have been called a sequel because it's a completely different game. No spoilers but it's a different game and plot.

FF7R is at least enough of a different thing. Kind of like how the Evangelion Rebuild movies are different from the show/comic/old movies.

I agree, though, straight up remakes are kinda boring.

Anything Konami does is particularly unnecessary.

(Insert picture of that moron goon Asmogonad saying MGS3 better not have "politics" in it.)

I think there’s something to be said for remasters adding in quality of life features (fast travel points, quick saves, online play, accessibility features). But yeah, a lot of full on remakes are cash grabs.

I, on the other hand, will not be satisfied until there's more remakes of FF4 than mainline entries

Resident Evil 2 Remake was a fuckin masterpiece though - completely different presentation and style of gameplay but faithfully captured the spirit of the original. The original still has value and is distinct enough to not be eclipsed by the remake IMO.

I've been saying this for years. A good game is always a good game. It's not like we've evolved into a different species from the humans who were playing these games in the 90s. If the game sucks now it sucked then too, if it was good then it's good now.

Drives me up the wall when people talk about how they just "can't" play older games. Yeah you can, you're just a shallow loser who doesn't have any interest in the art form and needs cutting edge spectacle to consider an entry worthwhile

I like remakes/remasters/rereleases if they make it easier to just play the damn game. By that I mean I don't want to have to track down a physical copy to play it legally just because EA/whoever decided to take it off their store. Of course I can always pirate those games, but then I have to track down a decent torrent and deal with that bs. I'd rather just pay a reasonable amount to easily play an older game but they like to make that difficult (I'm looking at you Mercenaries 2)

I’m not a big gamer anymore but I played FF7 remake and it was one of the best games I had ever played.

I don’t think MGS3 needs a remake, not sure what they can upgrade besides graphics but FF7 remake (albeit a cash grab for only being 1/4 of the first of 4 cds) is fucking amazing

ff7 and re2's remakes are so technologically different and play so differently that I just think of them as entirely different games just based on the same design notes.

I think RE2 and RE4 remakes hit the sweet spot of being accurate enough to the original while also being new enough that it's not just a cashgrab. They're different enough that other than being named remakes they're essentially different games, especially RE2 which is radically different than RE2 remake.

Re-releasing them for newer consoles isn't profitable enough on it's own, gotta add new content so people who loved the original can get FOMO about it.

Yeah, but there are people who outright refuse to watch movies from before color. Likewise there are people who'd refuse to play those games on the grounds that they don't look as good as newer games.

Not that this is a good thing, but some folks demand only the freshest treats.

I dunno if I could play the original FF7 at this point, while I do look back on it fondly I also remember grinding out high end materia for probably days because I really wanted to beat Emerald and Ruby.

The original Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask versions looked and played better than the 3DS remakes

I think RE2 remake is wrranted just for the fact that you don't have to rooted to the spot while aiming down the sights. I also appreciate that they took the creepy fanservice out of it.

I just want the classics with modern QoL features. Even just basic stuff like autosaves are great because I don't ever want to lose 4 hours of progress to a power outage or just forgetfulness.

A lot of it is games are tied to proprietary hardware unlike something like movies or album making for a sort of inaccessibility for a lot of people. Like yeah you could set up an emulator but that is still many more steps then me typing in pet sounds on youtube and finding an upload instantly. Another reason is of coarse remakes being the more risk aversive avenue than making a new ip or even a sequel.

I think its kinda fun to see a re-imagining of a classic game, but its actually super, super hard to stick the landing. I don't think you can ever be as good as the original (that you played when you were a kid with some flicker of imagination still left in your soul) but you can give it a fresh coat of paint and try your best not to ruin the classic moments.

I think FF7r is a travesty in ruining the originals' emotional beats. Dead Space remake does a pretty good job, RE4R is also pretty good.

What i think would actually be a way better way to go is to do a remake, but also release the source code of the original game, so the big fans can do something special with the original instead.

RE2 is the platonic ideal of a remake. Essentially does the original but has changed enough about the gameplay, sound and graphics that it feels justified.

I don’t understand the hype about FF7 remake. The story seems to now be written by people who unironically like Advent Children and the game is so goddamn bloated. It does have salmon the dog though.

I guess it mostly depends on quality of the remake. FF7 is basically a new game, that kind of remake i would love, well except the infinite development time and scummy practices with cutting game into three. No point in playing untill entire game is finished and packaged into one, hopefully mostly seamless, but i don't hope for that.

On the other hand we have some real shit like the recently played tactics ogre "remake" where they didn't even bothered to remake the fucking sprites and everything looks like utter shit.

All that said, i fucking crave for Final Fantasy Tactics remake.

I think the current landscape is rife with unnecessary remakes of great games, but I can't deny that that stupid Pachinko machine gave me a taste for Snake Eater with modern graphics and I still haven't been able to shake the desire to see the entire game like that. The selfish monkey part of my brain is very much looking forward to delta.

But honestly, I think people should be trying to remake failed games that had a good premise or world if you're going to remake. But that would mean prioritizing a guaranteed profit over art. Instead they pick their biggest cash cows and try to improve upon the already great.

Ff7 did not need KH treatment but the update was really appreciated. I tried ro get my nephew ro check out 7 and he dismissed OG 7 for being too dated and cartoony looking.

I have yet to replay OG 7 with the newish voice acting mod, which I hear a lot of praise from, but I want to save that till after the new trillogy is completed lest it be redundant and damned it come out on PC qlready rebirth it is difficult to navigate away from spoilers. NOMURA!

No, you're right