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Chinese soft power created through entertainment can and will climb if they support these industries.

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[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 99 points 2 months ago

teens when they cannot play the monkey game:

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago

Imagine this being Taiwan’s blue jeans and pizza hut moment lol

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 61 points 2 months ago

Did the USSR ever have this kind of soft power with any of their products? I genuinely don’t know if they had any tv shows, films, games, or music that NATO residents would try to pirate or get ahold of in big numbers.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 months ago

Surely there still isn't a person alive who doesn't want a Lada

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

Funny enough, Soviet cars are one of the biggest reasons I hear NATO residents talk about how bad the Soviet Union was. “They had terrible and inefficient cars!”

[-] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago

Cuban cigars and rum are definitely something Americans want but can't have

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We can buy the rum by going to Canada, don't know about cigars. IIRC it's technically illegal to bring it back to the states but border agents don't care (provided you're white enough).

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago
[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

That came pretty late in the Soviet union's time

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The AK rifle. Good ones cost thousands of dollars in the US (or maybe $600 if you’re lucky) because of import bans (both China and Russia). And most of them are Yugo or Romanian

[-] miz@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

all I can remember is some types of high-quality caviar

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Finland wasn't a NATO member but some US media was censored or banned for being anti-Soviet during Finlandisation

[-] miz@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

you specifically asked for cultural products and I responded with retail goods and appeared to have kicked off several similar replies. I'm sorry

[-] buh@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago

the first game that is both based and woke

[-] miz@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

cool that "accomplice of the CCP" is 中共同路人, "Chinese Communist (Party) Same Road Person". interesting mirror of the term "capitalist roader" in Maoism

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

I think "fellow traveller" is a better translation

[-] miz@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago

yeah, you're right. it loses some specificity towards China but has the advantage of being an established term that is more recognizable

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago

I can't keep up with the culture war stuff. Is the game chud or woke? Based or cringe?

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago
[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago
[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

It's both at the same time.

Woke - because it's Chinese evil SeeSeePee brainwashing

Chud - because Gamers™ align with the claims(?) of sexism within the company that made the game.

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

The game itself is unremarkable in terms of culture war stuff.

Some of the developers said some insulting bullshit about female gamers a while back and the company has a few vocal techbro creeps, and a female game reviewer said there weren't enough female characters, so the chuds rallied to culture war on the side of the game.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

Fascists are going to have a conundrum on their hands, do they back the game because somehow it's "anti-woke" or do they go against it because evil SeeSeePee is brainwashing RoC youths?

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They're pushing anti-game journalism and anti-feminism because of that one IGN article that pointed out the dev's sexism that one time.

So yeah, they're trying to do culture war with it. But also from what I've seen it's not something any of the usual people with political clout are talking about. It's the audience of chuds doing the culture war with it, the real fascists are shutting the fuck up about it not wanting to boost a Chinese product.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Hmm yeah you're spot on. Gamers™ really are awful people.

I get the feeling this won't last for very long in the chud space because of the game coming from China. Let's see I guess.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

I get the feeling this won't last for very long in the chud space because of the game

being too hard for them.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

squidward-chill Wake me up when they make Dark Souls meets ROTK

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

ROTK

Rage Ogainst The Kachine?

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Romance Of the Three Kingdoms

Either that or Return Of The King

But context leads me to believe it is the first thing

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Souls like controlling game where you play some dude in the battle of pellenor would be kinda cool

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Rage Ogainst the Kachine?

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Well, there's that Team Ninja game which I guess is more Sekiro Three Kingdoms as a prequel.

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[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Dynasty Warriors Origins is like Dark Souls if you were 500x stronger than in Dark Souls troll

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[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Does anyone have a solid source for this? The only actual article I could find says that it's specifically not available on the PlayStation Network because there's some sort of security verification process required that the team didn't know about until it was too late because it would have delayed the launch date. The Steam version seems to be unaffected.

https://tw.news.yahoo.com/獨家-中國3a大作-黑神話-悟空-沒上台灣psn原因出爐-042603511.html

Google Translated article[Weekly King CTWANT] The biggest news in the gaming industry today (August 20, 2024) is that the 3A game "Black Myth: Wukong" created by the Chinese game manufacturer "Game Science" for many years is officially launched. As early as the end of June, "Game Science" had stated that it confirmed that it would not launch a traditional Chinese version of the PS5 physical disc for Taiwan, nor would it be put on the Taiwan Playstation Store (PSN), making Taiwan players want to play it. This game can only be purchased on Steam or through the Hong Kong PSN. Industry insiders pointed out that the reason why "Black Myth: Wukong" was not released on Taiwan's PSN was mainly because the development team did not know that "Chinese games require security review before being released on Taiwan's PSN" and the time process was too late.

"CTWANT" exclusively interviewed Mr. Y, a veteran in the home game console industry. When faced with the fact that "Black Myth: Wukong" is not available on Taiwan's PSN, Mr. Y explained that the main reason is that Chinese games are stuck. If he wants to be on Taiwan's PSN, he must receive funding. Security review, and this review process takes time.

Mr. Y said that in fact, as early as a few months ago, some colleagues in the industry suggested to Game Science to postpone the launch, because this would have time to make a physical version of PS5 and launch it on PSN. However, this request was rejected by Game Science. Mr. Y speculated that Game Science wanted to grab the last slot for the summer vacation. If it continued to be postponed, he was worried about the impact on game sales. In addition, the sales of "Black Myth: Wukong" on Steam in China are too amazing, so Game Science does not plan to delay the entire launch plan for the PS5 version.

Mr. Y explained that for games that generally require physical versions of PS5 discs, game manufacturers (or publishers) must purchase special Blu-ray discs from Sony, and subsequently purchase packaging boxes, cover design and printing, production and packaging, and delivery of all packages. Processes such as getting the goods to agents around the world, and agents distributing goods to various stores. It will take at least 3 months for experienced publishers to go through these processes. Not to mention that Game Science is just a company that is new to physical game distribution, so it is estimated that it may take even longer.

In addition, as far as Mr. Y knows, Game Science puts almost all manpower and resources on processing the Steam version of the game, and there are not many resources to take into account the production of the PS5 physical version. This is why "Black Myth: Wukong" has not been released. Traditional Chinese PS5 disc version of the game, because there is no physical disc version released in the world.

Mr. Y also explained that in fact, Game Science's move will also affect sales. If it is launched simultaneously, Mr. Y estimates that the PS5 physical version of "Black Myth: Wukong" will have at least one million sales worldwide, but if it is PC If the PS5 physical version is released first and the PS5 physical version is pushed later, the final sales volume of the PS5 version may be less than 20%.

Mr. Y also said that Game Science is actually a passionate and ideal team. However, if you are engaged in game development and game publishing at the same time, it is inevitable that there will be omissions in complex practical aspects, such as this time because we did not know how to put it on PSN. Need to undergo information security review, resulting in a situation where it is too late to submit for review.

Mr. Y mentioned that in fact, the Chinese game development team is very familiar with the review process. Including the well-known Chinese mobile game "Genshin Impact" is currently officially released on PSN. The review unit here in Taiwan has actually not blocked the "photography" of games developed in China. Just submit the process for review, because the review is not to review the game content, but to review whether there are any strange cash flows or packets being sent back to China."

According to data from the Digital Entertainment Software Rating Inquiry Network, for Chinese games, in order to ensure the integrity of their database flow and security test reports, starting from April 1, 2022, game companies or game agents must submit to a third-party notary unit For the server flow report of the test, the laboratory that produces and submits the report must be a Taiwanese testing laboratory with TAF certification, and must meet the qualifications of the "Intelligent Networked Service System Information Security Testing Laboratory Certification Service Plan" project.

As for how long the actual review will take, Mr. Y said, "It takes about one week for urgent information security laboratory certification, and about two weeks for the Computer Association to review contract documents." Coupled with other administrative processes, it will take at least a month.

There are currently rumors in the game industry that the Taiwanese government is blocking the launch of "Black Myth: Wukong", but Mr. Y also said, "Many Chinese games have been successfully launched in Taiwan before. As long as you follow the process, there will be no problem. Genshin Impact" , Collapse of Iron, and Dead Zone are all fine. It’s just that “Black Myth: Wukong” didn’t have enough time to complete the security review before its official release, so I just gave up.”

 

If I had a VPN which had servers in Taiwan I'd check myself, but SteamDB seems to corroborate this. Compare the SteamDB entries for Wukong and Valkyrie Drive: Bhikkhuni. For the former, prices are listed for all currencies (including Taiwan Dollar); for the latter, no prices are given for AUD, which makes sense because the game is banned for sale in Australia. Not conclusive evidence, but personally I'd avoid spreading this around unless you can get some strong confirmation to avoid ending up with egg on your face.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't have a source I took a tweet at face value. It could actually be completely made up or whatever and I made an oopsie by not checking! Ehe!

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

which makes sense because the game is banned for sale in Australia

nevermind I can't read

[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago
[-] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Barwly relevant to the OP but i wamted to post funny pun before i forgor

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

Hell yeah, I don't know anything about this game but I'd feel the same way if my gov banned Dyson Sphere Program or Amazing Cultivation Simulator.

[-] Annakah38@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

Monkey game isn't even that good. Nine Sols fox game much better.

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Chinese soft power created through entertainment can and will climb if they support these industries.

It seems that most of China’s state support for these industries are either foreign investments in existing games, propaganda movies, or lame ass gacha bullshit.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah sadly the abject defeat of USSR in the culture war taught them nothing. COMRADES, LENIN WAS RIGHT YOU MUST WIN THE MEDIA even if it means filling the world with slop, let it be prosocialist slop.

[-] refolde@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

It's actually banned? Why this game in particular though?

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