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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

boring as fuck jokes, liberal cringe opinions, 9 bad takes out of 10, and more galore. Should hexbear really keep associating itself with Chapo, it really seems that hexbear has outgrown it in general.

edit: by associating i mean using things like chapotraphouse com or askchapo or chapochat. maybe we've grown beyond it, maybe its a neat part of site culture and a nod to its roots while not connected to the cringe stuff.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 53 points 2 weeks ago

We don't? We changed the name years ago.

Also this is a citations-needed fan site.

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[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 43 points 2 weeks ago

The tenuous connection that remains doesn't bother me. Did they say something cringe recently?

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Did they say something cringe recently?

I still listen from time to time. Not to my knowledge. Hell they're one of the handful of left media figures who've been consistently good on Palestine.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Same, still listen very rarely (moved on to even more based/educational channels like Geopolitical Economy Report admittedly, or more informative ones)

TBH didn't even know the connection between Chapo and Hexbear when I first joined a month ago- and this is despite having been around the old r/Chapo till- I think it got banned for saying death to slavers or some other based shit? (Ancient history). So the association isn't very obvious (IMO).

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah iirc and i almost certainly don't their excuse for finally axing us was people posting about killing slavers who were specifically already dead or something.

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[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I probably listen more frequently than most, and I can't say I've noticed any racist jokes, Can you think of a specific one?

The opinions haven't changed much still mostly ok with smattering of bad takes but nothing outrageous that I haven't seen expressed here, maybe more lowbrow since maths absence

Bit they still get decent guests, and for someone outside the US I appreciate the perspective on internal politics that isn't too lib, although you can get all that elsewhere

My opinion on the matter is it does really matter anymore, but if it ain't broke don't fix it, like what is there really beyond associations other than this sub name and older users like myself who may still use the chapo.chat domain

Can't prove it but I think it's probably a driver of new users since I see here mentioned on places like the blackwolffeed reddit

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 31 points 2 weeks ago

self crit it was pointed out that i kinda mixed up cumtown and chapo so my annoyance with chapo deflated and my point about the racism stuff was wrong. Sorry.

i can see your side, especially since it is a reference to its roots, and its already here so why change it.

conversely, maybe in order to improve the site, and get rid of the reddit-ness that is so often causing issues, its necessary to move the site culture away from those things. Probably overboard though.

[-] booty@hexbear.net 35 points 2 weeks ago

Genuinely curious, what alternate universe version of the site have you been looking at? The chapotraphouse podcast is mentioned here in passing maybe once a week if that, sitewide

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

he says while posting on c/chapotraphouse

[-] booty@hexbear.net 21 points 2 weeks ago

That really hasn't had anything to do with the podcast since before this site even existed though. We're not associated with the podcast we're associated with the subreddit which had basically nothing to do with the podcast by the end

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[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

i was meaning more with this com, references to it, and such. you dont have to be confrontational about it booty.

[-] Esoteir@hexbear.net 34 points 2 weeks ago

afaik main isn't called that because people actually like chapotraphouse, it's an extended bit because the chapos hated r/chapotraphouse so we kept the name out of mutual disrespect

that being said i wouldn't have any problem fully converting over to c/main or a different/funny comm name, it's site culture but it wouldn't be a loss if it was dropped

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago

I don't even think they hated us. What i remember is that they mentioned the sub in some negative joking way in like 2018 and we just kind of ran with it. I kinda doubt they even know we exist

[-] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They actually mentioned the banning of the sub briefly in a very recent episode, the one before the latest l think, but that's the first time in years iirc but I haven't listened to every episode so could be wrong there

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[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

I remembered they celebrated that the sub got banned on the podcast. I don't think they thought about r/cth all that much, but they seemed really happy to hear it got banned.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

they mostly just thought it was funny, and tbf so did we

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[-] videogame@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago

Idk I've listened to like the last 100 episodes and I haven't noticed any racist jokes. Maybe anti-semitic jokes from felix but even that's a stretch

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

restating my self crit i mixed up chapo and cumtown so like half my hate is out the window

more that its mid cringe and we should like get rid of it

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[-] Venat@hexbear.net 29 points 2 weeks ago

I just strongly dislike the man-children aspect of their dynamic, especially Felix who seems to be stuck emotionally as a burnout turned 27 year old gamer. Just everything about his speech mannerisms, his vocal fry, the limited vocabulary and adolescent presentation, the revelations of his habits, hygiene, and "hobbies" (i.e, gaming & internet addiction).

All this is of course excluding Chris Wade who seems to be the only professional, and Matt Christman who seems to be the only one moving forward with building a life and family.

It's probably, most definitely if I was forced to make a decision and commitment, that I - perhaps you too - am just growing out of news podcasts as entertainment. Even long since 10/7, I kind of find these podcasts - Chapo, Trueanon, Trillbilllies, etc - to be a mix of "finding catharsis in the darkness via public broadcasting" and grifting the disintegration and decline of empire for affluence and notoriety.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

and Matt Christman who seems to be the only one moving forward with building a life and family.

I'm glad Matt is able to do at least this much of what he wants, but I think that the way you're judging people here is extremely toxic in a patriarchal nuclear-family-worship kind of way. You don't need to have a partner, much less a child, to be an adult and a worthwhile person.

If Felix had a wife and a child, it wouldn't make him the slightest bit less pathetic outside of the time and effort spent on childrearing, which I think he'd be shit at anyway and probably have the wife bear the brunt of indefinitely.

So, uh, be nicer to Will, his affect annoys me but I think on a personal level he seems perfectly fine, plus he's the actual show runner while everyone else just riffs and rants.

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[-] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

Racist jokes? Huh? Are you confusing Chapo with cumtown?

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[-] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah tbh I’d support this. Having the chapo name still around is sort of nice for those of us who were on the subreddit, but I haven’t listened to the podcast in 4 years and so much of that “dirtbag left” moment has sort of imploded. The chapo guys are fine, but I’m thinking of the red scare girls becoming fascists, stupidpol becoming a reactionary cesspool, jimmy dore becoming a reactionary, Bernie sanders dead (in spirit), cumtown refusing to move on from edgelord humor, sevendeadlyfetishes banned from the site. Maybe some of that stuff was never good, but it was a moment, and an important one, both politically since it put to rest that distinctly apolitical period that preceded it, and I’d guess personally for a lot of people on this site. But moments end and that moment has surely ended. We sort of tried to move away from it by changing the name to hexbear, but yeah I think it’s time we complete that process and make our identity wholly our own.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

Counterpoint - if we change the name we can't do the bit where people ask us what chapo trap house is and we reply "idk this is a the-podcast citations needed the-podcast fan site.

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[-] bazingabrain@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

imma be honest. I never, ever, listened to these guys or watched their show (is it a show? idek man)

i dont even remember how i even found this website, i vaguely remember typing "wtf is a chapotraphouse" and you fuckers showed up

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, a podcast? I thought we were radicals appealing to a drug dealer for material support in order to wage a protracted people's war.

[-] thetaT@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

frankly, I didn't even know that ChapoTrapHouse was a podcast before I joined. I thought it was just the subreddit name

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

i dont know if thats a bit or not and that makes this comment even better

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[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

So we're at this point of the hexbear discourse cycle again?

I don't really see the benefit to changing it, especially for most of the reasons you mention. I don't think the chapos are libs and I'm not sure what you mean by "cringe."

I agree it does feel anachronistic, but that's kinda how culture works. Things from the past hang around even after the origins are lost

Edit: honestly, the hexbear meme from the dying days of the subreddit becoming the site name seems stranger and more out of place to me. But I think we're kinda stuck with that too

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

For that matter why is this place named "Hexbear"? I remember it was chapo.chat but I didn't join up during that time, later decided to try it only to find it's now Hexbear

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It was because the mods at the time were mad that people only used c/main and had voted not to rename c/main to something other than c/main (I voted for c/slop) so then they stopped having elections about things like that. Next thing you know we change the name of the site to hexbears because some the then mods/admins thought the association with Chapo was bad and decided to name/brand the website after a stale, but wholesome meme (look at this dope-ass bear)

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[-] Rom@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

Look at this dope ass bear og-hex-bear

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[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

What’s chapo trap house? Is that a drug thing?

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[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

unironically we should associate with citations-needed instead.

i never listened to chapo, they seem like libs and idk why reddit bothered to ban liberals.

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

CTH are libs, this is a lib site rage-cry

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Think of it like the "Bechdel test". At this point it's no longer associated with the comic despite having the authors name

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I haven't listened to them properly in like 4 years

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I still listen. I agree they're kinda old and stale especially with half the hosts gone for various reasons but what can I say...I still have one of those parasocial relationships where I feel like I'm hanging out with my friends while I workout.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What they talk about the most is Israel and they do a pretty good job of that. I never understood why people are so revolted by it other than Felix being gross. There's basically no criticism you could make of their politics that you couldn't make of Citations Needed, e.g. if you're a Dengist you probably don't like how they basically never remark on China, but I've heard remarks occasionally from CTH and none from CN

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[-] Vampire@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

What's chapotraphouse?

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