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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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Elon Musk’s frequent presence at Mar-a-Lago and his involvement in sensitive conversations have raised concerns among Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.

Musk’s push for influence, including voicing policy ideas and taking credit for Trump’s win, has raised concerns about his motives and loyalty.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 196 points 5 months ago

Please let them be too busy fighting amongst themselves these next four years they just are unable to get anything destructive done.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 85 points 5 months ago

I am 100% in favor of teenage drama derailing their efforts to remove bodily autonomy from women.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago

That's the plan. But while the government is ineffective, big businesses will have free reign to fuck us over.

[-] RedditReject@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

True...but big business still needs us to buy their products, so we are of some use to them

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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 139 points 5 months ago

I can't really see 2 egos of that size coexisting. I'm terrified of being wrong about that in this case though

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 88 points 5 months ago

Did you see Don's face when Elon was doing his jumping shit? Don's already sick of him, and only keeping him around because he's worth so much.

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago

Donny always needs about tree fitty.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

“So I said, ‘monster, what are you gonna do with tree fitty?’”

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

My coping fantasy plays off of their arrogance. Imagine it. On the day of Trump’s inauguration, he admits that climate change is real and shouts, “good luck, suckers,” as he and Musk board a SpaceX rocket bound for Mars.

A guy can dream. lol

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 38 points 5 months ago

And it explodes on the launchpad?

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 22 points 5 months ago
[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 months ago

I mean the King of All Cosmos has a codpiece the size of the moon, so I dunno if he's really a good voice on the subject.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I like to imagine them running out of oxygen and food on Mars after weeks of nonstop arguing, expelling their final, hateful words at each other.

Either way, it’s like having a warm cup of tea under a blanket while I wait out the storm that is my mind.

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[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 7 points 5 months ago

You don't understand though, by being visionaries who disregard accepted margins of safety, they lowered the cost per (attempted) launch by almost 3%!

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 121 points 5 months ago

Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.

Sounds like "trumps longstanding advisors" are worried they did all this work to get trump in power to use him are seeing musk come in and begin to use trump instead of them.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Pretty much. His advisors have quietly expressed "concern" to the media about a lot of things, and they go nowhere.

Every once in a while, it does. Laura Loomer seems to have been forgotten. That might just be Trump getting bored with sleeping with her, though.

[-] londos@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

He'll have them sign something saying they were never advisors at all and he was there from the start.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 months ago

Honestly, once Trump gets sworn in, I assume the people around him who want to implement Project 2025 won't have any more use for him. That's why Vance is there, just look at his track record, he knows how to play ball.

[-] Aeri@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

I can only pray that they all tear each other to shreds.

[-] whithom@discuss.online 6 points 5 months ago

People should be afraid of musk. He’s gone completely mad with power. He doesn’t have to BE the president to be the hand in the puppet. Trump would be difficult to control, but whoever follows trump will be hand-picked.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 89 points 5 months ago

Let the infighting begin! Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic "vie for the king's attention" atmosphere.

I wonder how many mooches he'll last.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 32 points 5 months ago

Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic "vie for the king's attention" atmosphere.

Now thats a mutually assured destruction scenario I'd be in favor of.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

Donald "I have the record for the most people fired from a cabinet" Trump? He only hires the best people!

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[-] Benjaben@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Yup! Weirdly Trump's own worst qualities also tend to neuter his ability to deal damage somewhat (only somewhat! Goddamn is the man just a pandimensional wrecking ball). He attracts some of the very worst people, but then he chews through them for whatever purpose he had in mind for them, and then invariably even those people leave his orbit and go "wow everyone, that guy really is a piece of shit". Pretty incredible stuff.

Similarly, his only actual ambition is personal greed, specifically his own wealth and fame. There's no ideology or barely even planning in him I don't think. Pretty sure his life is really best described as just the series of the nastiest, most self-serving moves he could think of at each moment along the way, with zero purpose except his own enrichment, both in dollars and fame/what he probably perceives as "power".

Of course what he seems to see as power or something desirable, everyone not trapped in his S-tier narcissism distortion field sees as just him stating the terms of his own manipulation to whomever wants to take advantage, for mutual benefit. Right in the open. But sure, he's the tough talker we need on the world stage, lol. Amazing. Sorry, just realized I have reached full tangent mode now, I regret nothing but I'll end my rant heh.

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[-] niucllos@lemm.ee 58 points 5 months ago

Oh please let Trump's first dictatorial move be to strip Elon of his wealth. We're all going to suffer some shit but let at least one oligarch stuffer too

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 59 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It can start by denaturalizing him since he lied on his immigration forms and was in the country illegally when he first came here. That's not even dictatorial, it's the letter of the law.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

"First they came for the Oligarchs and I did not speak out - because I was not an Oligarch, and really because wage inequality is the core problem facing our society so coming for the Oligarchs seemed like a pretty good idea to me."

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 43 points 5 months ago

who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting

... that's one way to put it.

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

Over assertively impregnates employees as a hobby

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[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

The only redeeming feature of this whole sorry mess will be watching those hyaenas constantly tearing each other apart.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago

He’s an accelerationist. He knows the death of America is coming and wants to be sitting pretty, real close to the top when it happens; so he can use his money to become king.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Which is several layers of stupid, seriously most of the time when empires collapse the ones in power are either remains of the old bureaucracy or warlords. The rich are usually a non factor unless they already fit into one of the previous two situations. None of the billionaires have enough hard power to pull that off in the long term.

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[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 5 months ago

The billionaire cosplayer feels inadequate next to the actual billionaire

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I'm pretty sure a little over half of the conservatives hate Musk just as much as the left does. He painted himself as a victory factor when in reality he's just a liability. Conservatives don't like the reminder that Trump got less votes this time that in 2020, and I like to say Elon is why.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Elon almost certainly earned votes for Trump by

  1. Funding a shit ton of election ads
  2. Using Twitter to push propaganda
[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I begrudgingly have to concede and acknowledge that you are correct. That being said, he still did so indirectly as his name and ugly fucking face weren't attached to those.

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Looks like we'll be bringing back Mooches as a measure of political tenure soon.

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[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

One can only hope.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

Elon Musk = Trump's Rasputin?

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 months ago

lol trying to fuck with the federal reserve. that didn't take long

[-] chetradley@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

They deserve each other.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People don't understand, they both speak the same language. They're both natural grifters... What's more Musk is probably better at it than Trump was. Trump needed lessons from Roy Cohn, who was a ruthless, damaged, low empathy, closet homosexual and self-hater.

Musk didn't need that kind of mentor, he's a natural grifter, and my bet is that Trump is fascinated by him. They do similar things in different ways.

Only in certain scenarios would this blow up, and Musk has already bent the knee to Trump, so those scenarios are unlikely.

Musk is a friendly fellow grifter Trump can use, and has power over, which is what Trump likes.

At best we'll see Musk become a fall guy for Trump's shortcomings. But seeing as Trump may later die in office, Musk might also avoid such a fate. Only time will tell.

[-] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Based on the pictures Elon thinks he owns Trump. This is going to be fun.

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[-] oo1@lemmings.world 7 points 5 months ago

I suspect Musk's welcome is as long as his chequebook. I think trump sees the $, if his "advisors" are offering him less $ I doubt Trump cars to listen.

The only issue might be if any of it could be proven to be criminal bribery - that seems unlikely though.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Trump is literally and figuratively immune against any prosecution. He raped children, stole and killed millions.

I am no American, but at this point I think he could produce and distribute CP right in the oval office and nothing would happen. And that is the one thing next to murder, he didn't already commit publicly.

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