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[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool bro, nice definitely real data about animals existing in nature you paid to put on that billboard. Now do cars

Incidentally, I was curious what this number actually is, but apparently no one is even attempting to keep track of how many deer are injured/killed by cars, despite frequently involving a police report and/or insurance claim

The actual number of animals killed in deer-vehicle collisions is not known because no such database exists.

[-] MarxGuns@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

I can literally see a dead deer every few miles in some places. I imagine a portion of them are hit by larger trucks where an insurance claim isn't necessary.

[-] fox@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It'd be a special kind of hell world if cars did a better job of deer population control than hunters given how much hunters lobby to shoot more deer

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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

...that's...good? My brother in Christ what do you expect a carnivore to eat?

[-] Pili@hexbear.net 71 points 1 year ago

I would like them to eat hunters.

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

inshallah-script

The only kind of shocking "gore-style" videos I ever enjoyed when I was young were animals fucking up humans who were hunting or tormenting them. Honestly that shit never gets old for me. When those pics of that matador with a bull horn going in his neck and out his mouth my only reaction was nicholson-yes

[-] Othello@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

i love when elephants freak out and kill their abusers.

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago
[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

That sounds like one of the good subreddits

[-] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

New kind of guy: advocates veganism but only for obligate carnivores

[-] DoghouseCharlie@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

New kind of guy that uses the word obligate as a slur for cats.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Sadly that is not a new kind of guy.

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 1 year ago

Are they suggesting that wolves be eliminated so these monsters have more deer to hunt? Also don't areas with deer population in US often complain about there being too many deer around?

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

Either that or they want to be given the go ahead to hunt wolves. And yeah, overpopulation of deer is bad for ecosystems as they clear out underbrush and prevent new growth trees from forming. This both limits biodiversity but also sets up a long term problem of barren landscapes when the old growth trees do finally die.

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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Hunting as a way to control animal populations is an important talking point by gun and hunting groups. If ecosystems can be put into a more natural equilibrium by reintroducing apex predators, then they lose this talking point.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's partially true, something needs to kill and scare deer or they'll starve out & destroy the habitat of every other animal in the area, but yes, wolves are waaaaaay fucking better at it and these idiots don't want em. If we were earnestly trying to restore a habitat it would be good to hunt there until the wolves get their population going

[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

We need a MN Deer Hunters Hunters Association STAT

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

The Adam Ruins Everything segment on hunting pissed me off.

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Yeah deer are one of the only animals whose populations are higher than pre-Colombian exchange. We basically created their ideal environment across the entire country, forest at the edge of open field.

The most common causes of death for deer are, in order: Human hunting, car collisions, starvation, and last is predation (predation does outrank car collision in certain areas with few people and few cars). Very few animals are actually capable of taking down an adult deer, so if they survive to adulthood they’re almost guaranteed to be killed by a human or by living long enough they wear down their teeth until they can’t chew food anymore and starve to death.

[-] MarxGuns@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

I hear all the time about how there are too many deer and not enough deer licenses being issued.

[-] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is so messed up, we need to stop these wolves from killing so many deer... Checks notes... so that we can kill them instead

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

This is the actual message of the sign.

"Isn't it terrible what those wolves due to deer" says person who is mad he only gets one tag this year because wolves actually naturally control deer populations.

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[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

You've got to have a fucked up baby brain to think that this emotional blackmail would fucking work.

What are they even trying to do?

It's either:

Wolves kill so many baby deers, so what difference does it make if we kill some too?

Wolves kill so many baby deers, let us kill the wolves to save the baby deers.

Haha, veggie, you love nature so much, what about wolves who kill so many baby deers, checkmate!

[-] sloth@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

I think they want to hunt wolves again. IIRC, Minnesota was the only state you could hunt wolves for a couple years, and I guess some folks miss it.

From 2019 - https://www.mprnews.org/story/2023/04/19/minnesota-house-votes-to-ban-recreational-wolf-hunting

From 2023 - https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/minnesota-wolf-hunting/

Pretty funny seeing pro-life billboards but for deer.

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[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Odd to pay for an add that says an animal is doing your thing but for free. we should release more wolves

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Specifically into the homes of ranchers after we take their guns.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

:gulag: for all of them. Ranchers, whiny ass deer hunters, all of them. Deer are so absurdly overpopulated that they've all got covid and zombie prions and they're destroying native plant life causing serious ecological problems and some asshole paid for a billboardz?

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

hot take: deer hunting is good as a substitute to fill an ecological niche while predators rebound, but whiny ass deer hunting is snowflakish and must be re-educated

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Where are the vegan wolves? 😔

[-] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Is this supposed to convince people who hate deer so much they shoot them with high powered rifles that wolves are their friends?

The tone and composition seems off for that but idk.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

"The wolves are killstealing"

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Wolves are competing with them. That's the real deal. Not "safety of kids" or whatever fucking bullshit they spout.

[-] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

smh no one wants to deal with the free market

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[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Wolves are butting in on our territory!

[-] DanComrd@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

tHEY TOOk our joBS rage-cry

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Do the wolves kill so many fawns because the hunters are out there shooting all of their parents that might be able to protect them? The bucks have those antlers for a reason

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Bucks have antlers to fight other bucks to fuck during the rut bucks don't even stick around for the birth let alone defend fawns from wolves lol

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Well, it was just an idea. But wait, if you know so much about deer family dynamics, then how come you don't have any friends that are deers?

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[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Pweese let us shoot all the wolves? Fences are reeeally expensive and it's haaard. Look at the cute baby deer! What if we had to kill all the wolves?

[-] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't they be hunting wolves then?

[-] Sandinband@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately a lot of hunters want to hunt wolves because they see them as "taking their kills" whether that be elk or deer. Its fucking awful for the ecosystem and actually makes the deer population worse not to mention our Indigenous people are against it

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah the slowly rotting and festering countries in northern europe are doing this now. The conservative government in sweden is selling hunting licenses (trophy hunting) for (locally) endangered species like wolves and lynxes. Norway is doing something similar. I wish every trophy hunter a very naked-in-the-snow-and-pursued-by-wolves winter season

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[-] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Let’s juice that up a little, those are rookie numbers!

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Where can I get some wolves

[-] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The same hunters: hunting is necessary for culling the population

True, because we destroyed the predator population out of ignorant fear mongering and by destroying habitats

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