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Only I am allowed to steal 
Everyone’s a property rights absolutist until the rich demand you share with them.
All AI art has the exact same value as an NFT. I can copy-paste your image and make it mine, I can copy-paste your prompt and make it mine. Labour Theory of Value Gang stay winning.
But I still want to get paid for it
If only there was an economic system that made it so he could make a good living regardless of the output of his work... 
At the end of the day, I think this is the important thing. Arguments about IP and how AI (or AI "artists") affect artists are understandable, but are missing the forest for the trees.
There's one, singular reason art isn't well recognised nor compensated: Capitalism. And so long as it exists, no attitude or approach to AI, no purity filter, no level of enforcement of IP law, is going to effectively protect artists and meaningfully allow them to pursue their work.
Art is dead, dude. It's over. AI won. Humans lost.
me when I totally understand art and respect the medium I want people to give me clout for
Bazingas like to preach the boons of the bazinga tech, and if those boons are doubted or criticized, they go for inevitabilism instead.
"famous" "AI" "artist"
Dan Bongos, 32, of Cedar Rapids is suing Penthouse for copying his AI hentai artwork "Chun Li's Honkers" for their annual "Girls Of Games SPREAD".
I mean even if we disregard the AI art shit, this piece is so bland, fails the 3 second rule and has practically no direction or sense of light direction. Its like pouring fifty brands of cereals in a bowl of milk because you think more cereals=more good, except, no, fuckface, its just gonna turn into a disgusting, unpalatable mush that no one in their right mind would eat.
also
Jason M. Allen, an executive at a tabletop gaming startup,
get this fucking guy out of here hes a fucking bozo!
"Tabletop gaming startup" has to be a bit. Like there's no way he's getting venture capitalists to invest in Pokémon cards...r-right?
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almost wanna be feeding prompts until i hit the most scrumptious stack of cash w/ half a jesus & extra fingers
like here's ur payment sir 
“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”
Good gravy. This isn't far off at all from the inevitabilist bootlickery I sometimes see on Hexbear about this treat printer shit.
LLMs would just be tools, useful for a task, if it wasn't for the hype-driven euphoria and venture capital momentum that is pushing to burn forests and turn lakes to dust in the drive to make ever larger data centers for reasons that range from arrogance to the occult.
As it stands, I give full uncritical support to yo ho ho everything that "prompt engineers" think is theirs because they pressed enter first. 
Music, tattoos, n comics will never be taken over by ai what a twat
A lot of music is focus-grouped and has algorithms behind it because major labels want to turn it into a commodity. I'm not a musician so I forget what they are exactly, but there's beats and music notes common in a lot of songs put there because they sell. Regardless, people will always want to hear live music. Nobody is going to pay hundreds of dollars to watch holograms of dead people.
But yeah. The camera did more damage to artists than AI ever has or will. If painting survived photography, it will survive AI slop.
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I get that socialists will naturally be sympathetic to artists who often are not well compensated for their labor. However I think it’s also important that we understand that in order to make a living, independent artists rely heavily on intellectual property law. As such, they tend to want to categorize all AI art as unoriginal and derivative of existing works.
Unfortunately I think that’s a bit of a liberal argument. It ascribes some ineffable quality to human creativity that AI cannot replicate. In doing so it obfuscates the process by which the state creates and enforces a market for intellectual property. Therefore, I don’t think it’s particularly useful argument for socialists to make.
That’s not to say “AI” companies aren’t exploiting the work of unpaid artists. That is definitely still true. We just need to be advocating for solutions that go beyond what capitalist markets can offer.
I don't think it is a particularly ineffable quality though? It's art because another human did it, and it really doesn't have to be much deeper than that. That said, I do agree that intellectual property is ultimately blind alley. What most people don't understand is that IP laws are only enforceable in the name of capital.
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Unfortunately I think that’s a bit of a liberal argument. It ascribes some ineffable quality to human creativity that AI cannot replicate.
every single time the AI argument comes down to this. "oh you just don't trust AI cos youre a rube who believes in a soul" no motherfucker I'm just not some fucking anti-intellectual who has decided, apropros of NO research into neuroscience, that I know how the brain works and it MUST be analogous to something algorithm based machines can understand
you genuinely don't know what you're talking about, and you have to take so many intellectual shortcuts to derive your position that you are not worth taking seriously
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Yeah I think what AI is exacerbating is the tension between creativity and commodity. Businesses don't celebrate art, they seek profits. Images, articles, music, and whatever else are all simply products to sell under capitalism. Turning every artist into a copyright lawyer won't change the fact that their creations are ultimately still commodities.
I see a lot of arguing over the definition of "art" but that's beside the point. The problem is the entire bourgeois concept of property and the way capitalism impoverishes the working class so that they must spend their lives selling their labor.
We just need to be advocating for solutions that go beyond what capitalist markets can offer.
Most of the people posting here currently live under capitalism. Unless you have solutions you want to advocate for now that for some reason you left unsaid in your post, it sounds more like a "stop complaining" proposal.
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
literally
my sides
Famous AI Artist
eaaaaat shit, guy.
AI art just steals from other artists to make it's own cursed style.
No such thing as AI artist bc their is no such thing as AI art.
I disagree that AI is “stealing” for the same reason I don’t think piracy is stealing. It’s true that everything AI produces is inherently derivative. However, intellectual property only exists as a set of market relationships enforced by the state. Even so, I would agree that artists are getting exploited. However, that’s because the market they are forced to engage with is controlled by capital and not because IP is a physical thing that can be stolen.
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I hope this and similar affairs turn into huge IP shitstorm which will explode straight into the faces of publishing mafia.
But i suspect they will just lobby legislation to copyright absolutely everything then give themselves the rights.
"famous" "ai artist" "losing millions" "stealing" "his work"
Most artists are making millions of dollars and very few are starving. Come on artists, share the wealth! 
Transformer based "AI" technology is not just a grift. While there is a lot of hype around it, it is also producing real results and has the potential to cause a massive devaluation of labor.
Fuck this dude though.
hahaha 
get fucked 
People take AI hate way too far. This guy dump as hell though
i mean every booster for AI tech is basically a weird asshole.
if they were smarter and got more personable people to advocate for the tech maybe regular people would hate it less
but instead it's either smarmy techbro psychos or cringe right wing assholes using it exclusively.
Yeah, like in thr absence of capitlaism ai could be treat. But I stead being teatoilled about it people keep trying to use it to neoliberal harder so that does suck.
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