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[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 69 points 1 month ago

The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike from sleeping under bridges, begging on the streets and stealing bread.

Anatole France, 1894

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

I commented that exact quote several times on Lemmy, nice to see other people do the same!

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It's been one of my favorites for decades!

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[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Working class: "Can we have meaningful reform?"

Conservatives: "No."

Liberals: "No 😘 🌈 "

[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I’m frustrated with the reflexive "both sides are equally bad" response that shuts down any meaningful analysis of what's actually happening in our politics.

I'm not naive about the Democratic Party's problems. They struggle with internal divisions, sometimes cave to corporate pressure, and they’ve made compromises that disappointed their base. But when I look at voting records, policy proposals, and legislative priorities, I see meaningful differences that have real consequences for people's lives.

On issues I care about (healthcare access, climate action, voting rights, ext.) one party consistently proposes solutions and votes for them when they have the numbers. The other party doesn’t just oppose these policies, they fight tooth and nail to undermine them, delay them, or dismantle them entirely. That’s not a matter of opinion. That’s a matter of public record.

When Democrats fail to deliver, it’s often because they lack sufficient majorities or face procedural roadblocks. When they do have power, they’ve passed significant legislation on infrastructure, climate investment, and healthcare expansion. Meanwhile, when Republicans have unified control, their priorities have been tax cuts for the wealthy and rolling back environmental protections.

I understand the appeal of cynicism. It can feel sophisticated to dismiss all politicians as equally corrupt. But that cynicism serves the interests of those who benefit from the status quo.

If you can't tell the difference between someone trying to reform a broken system and someone actively working to keep it broken, you're not offering insight. You're providing cover for obstruction.

Does this mean Democrats are perfect? Of course not. Should we hold them accountable when they fall short? Absolutely. But pretending there are no meaningful differences between the parties just because neither is perfect makes it harder to build the coalitions we need to create the change we actually want to see.

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 18 points 1 month ago

I agree with you that the parties are not the same. The GOP are outright evil puppets of the billionaire class. The Democrats are ineffectual cowards who've made careers out of paying lip service to the right thing, and every now and then doing something helpful if it's convenient for them and doesn't piss off their billionaire donors. A lot of the time that ends up translating to the same results for most people.

I don't buy the "sorry, our hands are tied" line we always get from the left. Dems throw up their hands even when they do have majorities. The first meaningful opportunity the Democrats had to obstruct Trump's agenda, after the left base had been screaming for weeks for their representatives to do something, Schumer rolled over immediately. I can't take this party seriously anymore.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

the left

Democrats are definitely not leftist. Center right would be more apt.

[-] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

The dems are not left they are center right. The repubs are far right.

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[-] shads@lemy.lol 11 points 1 month ago

From my detached non American (but still a citizen of the planet so likely to get fucked hard by the way Americans vote) point of view, seems like Americans are continually letting perfect be the enemy of least bad. "Well since Democrats are kinda bad in these instances maybe we should just go fully fascist theological doom cult. That will force the Democrats to improve, or kill us all."

[-] DrDeadCrash@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

American here....I think it's actually more the opposite. Everyone is being told to vote for the lessor evil and no one is getting what they want. That's what caused all this to begin with imo... The Magas torched their party trying to get something different to happen politically (not to excuse them or anyone). This is all on the 2 party system, if we make it out of this I think ending that system is one major change that will need to take place to avoid repeating the cycle. Basically, we lost our Republic a long time ago when Congress stopped representing us and became owned by billionaires.

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[-] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

It's called controlled opposition. The Democratic party has a lot of passionate, honest people, who want to make the world a better place. But they're funded and directed at the highest levels of leadership by a group that secretly wants to make the world a worse place.

And the way they accomplish that is making sure the passionate honest people lose. Kamala Harris was bragging about drilling for oil and staying quiet about Gaza because either she or the people giving her advice wanted her to lose.

"Both sides bad" is the party's intended messaging strategy. And it's a lie. But it's a lie people are falling for and repeating.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ive always put it in the very crude fashion of "They are both going to fuck us, but one of them spits on it and goes in gentle the other one wants us to struggle."

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[-] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"No kid should ever be able to sleep on the streets"

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Ok, but the people at Covenant House aren't the ones who decided to put the anti-homeless architecture in place.

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Most charities are just scams. And yeah they might do some good, but charity is a symptom of failure. We are byproduct of our environment.

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[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

the thing about Democrats and 'liberals' is that its a broad coalition of ideologies and political groups competing for power and having to compromise. we all want to bring about our vision of society and help people, but small differences lead to huge schisms. also, monied interests have undue amounts of power over our institutions.

conservatives on the other hand are completely united by cruelty and adherence to rigid heirarchies (in spite of how dysfunctional they are), and basically the only issues they ever have in their own base is that something isn't causing enough pain to people they hate.

i feel it is important to hold our representatives accountable, but saying things like both sides are exactly the same or complaining about liberals as if they are one cohesive entity has no value outside of pushing people away from politics. there are VERY specific people and groups that are making very bad decisions for Americans, like AIPAC or other big donors that simultaneously fund people like Andrew Cuomo and Donald Trump

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Its silly that you can see one of the unifying concept that holds the Republican coalition together, but not the liberal one.

The Democratic gerentocracy embodies the problems of the Democrats. Hell, there's a significant portion of the Democratic party that are just conservatives now who are disproportionately represented in the leadership. But the thing that holds them together is maintaining power.

This means they don't fight if they deem the fallout risk to be too high. They bend a knee in symbolic support and then through all the symbolism and say it was the young progressive who poison them.

Choosing not to fight, let's them maintain power. Most of their fight is boxing out other voices from gaining power within their coalition. But when the shit hits the fan, and the Republicans have gained control, the Democrats cry uncle, blame the progressives, and turn to us and ask us, "Who else are you going to vote for?"

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

who here said both sides same?

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[-] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

An angle grinder would make short work of those "arm rests."

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[-] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 11 points 1 month ago

Think of the kids.

But don’t do anything.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

"No kid should ever have to sleep on the streets, so we made it borderline impossible for them to physically do so. Hopefully their bootstraps figure out someplace they can sleep, because we sure as hell didn't. You're welcome."

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[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 5 points 1 month ago

We got a figure out a way to remove first past the post.

There are really at least 3 groups, not liberals and conservatives.

There are progressives, neoliberals, and fascists.

Progressives believe the government exists to help all people.

Neoliberals say people should not be descriminated against, but wealth segregation is fine

Fascists are, well, fascists.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

This post isn't very region specific but I assume you're talking about the USA.

Steps:

  1. Vote DNC, Promote DNC, Volunteer DNC

  2. DNC ammends constitution to reverse the Citizens United Decision, removing money from politics.

  3. DNC ensures fair districting and proportional representation

  4. People now have the power to enact real meaningful change

Simultaneously:

  1. Promote FairVote, educate people door to door and on the streets, buy ad space if you can

  2. Protect local broadcast infrastructure and donate to forums where people discuss these issues to keep them running

  3. Utilize Artwork to get people's attention on these issues.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Its unpopular, but its actionable and helps give space to further grow our progressive movement.

Tankies disagree, but don't put forth a real adgenda. Such unserious group.

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[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Saw a guy sleeping under a bench with a similar design as this one, checkmate.

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[-] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Revisiting and damn I made a good call to turn off notifications.

My visionary foresight knows no limits

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